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On Dec 2, 10:27 pm, "Netmask" <netmask56NOS...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Thanks.
 think this falls into the "myth" busted category for all practical
> purposes.  BTW even if my original recording was stereo it still doesn't
> help much... As for the Beatles tapes as others have commented they were
> mostly 4 track heavily overdubbed.....

Hi

Perhaps this is the time to ask a question [slightly off thread].

I have noticed in the past year or so that back tracks bought from
High Quality companies in the UK are hard to distinguish from the
original chart hits.  In fact, some would seem to still have a
smidgeon of the star's lead vocal on.

I am constantly asked "is there software available that will simply
remove the orginal lead vocal and leave the backing intact?"  My
answer is always on the lines of some of the posters to the original
question posed here.

However, they then point me toward the 'vocal remover' FX on Behringer
mixers that have FX built in.  Oddly, I have never used one.

In trying to be all knowledgable about the questions, I bought a
software pack called 'Vocal Remover' by a company called
www.Make-Your-Own-Karaoke.com.  The results were unusable.  The
software operates the old 'out of phase' trick to remove the middle of
the stereo.

So my questions are these:

1) Have the High End back track providers now got access to a mix
(from the record companies) of current chart tracks with the lead
vocals removed?  I personally always make various mixes of tracks I
produce or appear on for TV/Live PA/Radio work.  They could get these
from the record companies?

2) Is there a definitive piece of software that can intuitively remove
the lead vocal cleanly from an existing stereo release and leave a
back track with no loss of quality [I personally doubt that]

3) Looking at it the other way, I hear lots of dub mixes using just
the clean lead vocal from Chart tracks.  Again, have these guys got
access to the original multi track/computer files of Kylie, J Lo etc.
from the record companies?  I'm not talking of remixes commissioned by
the record companies - just normal club DJ dub mixes.

I would be glad of any insight?

Dec [Cluskey]

PS:  My chart career spanned exactly the time of the Beatles
beginnings and my band were the first to use double tracking for
vocals and overdubbing on 4 track for commercial release and
charting.  I cannot take the praise for this - we worked with a great
USA producer called Shel Talmy, who introduced us to the
techniques ... difficult in those days when the multi track tape
machines had to be put into sel-synch mode to overdub or 'drop in'.
Shel also produced The Who and The Kinks, Fortunes etc.  As a
coincidence, I lived at 54 Boston Place in London ... The Beatles
owned and used a studio, in a converted mews house, six doors away ...
strangely, I have never seen or heard it ever mentioned!  Weird.