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Article #2466Re: Is it possible to isolate instruments/vocals in a mono recording? Can pitch correction be added to individual elements?
From: Travis Garrison
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:59
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:59
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On Nov 30, 9:30 am, zvo...@gmail.com wrote: > Is there a way that a mono recording, (i.e. the Beatles), can be > separated to isolate separate instrument/vocals and then apply Auto- > Tune/pitch correction or other fx? > > Is it that it would take a lot of tech knowledge to execute this or > has something like this reached the point of just making the right > adjustments in a program like Cakewalk, Pro Tools, etc.? > > Thanks. As others have mentioned, this is not a trivial process - certainly nothing commercially available can accomplish this task. However, this sort of audio extraction has been a research topic for the past couple of years, with some promising results. At the International Computer Music conference in Miami a few years back, I recall attending a paper session discussing this exact topic. The researchers took on the task of separating out the two instruments from a Mozart piano/violin duet. As this was a piece with a readily- available score, the researchers knew in advance which pitches and rhythms were present in each instrumental part. The extraction was a matter of synchronizing a MIDI score with the audio recording, and using that as a guide to perform selective FFT bin extraction. In this case, separating the violin from the piano met with marginal success. The difficulties lie when the two instruments occupy the same frequency range. An FFT analysis will give you frequency content over time, but cannot distinguish whether a certain frequency bin originated with piano or violin. The resulting extracted instruments were recognizable, but both suffered from washy FFT resynthesis artifacts. But still impressive. Give it a few more years and I'm sure someone will crack this problem. Travis Garrison
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