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Article #1009Re: MP3 Vs ATRAC : Which is worse ?
From: John Busenitz
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:00
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:00
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Arny KrοΏ½ger wrote in message ... > >I think we are seeing the new-age version of "I like vinyl and SET's". Like >MP3, they audbly degrade audio signals, but some people actually like the >sound that the degradation imparts. Well, maybe. But I don't think there is much evidence of preference for MP3 when compared directly with the CD-quality signal. In fact, it's quite the opposite in the JAES papers I've read. How long until the first tubey-sounding codec rears it's head? ;-) Anyway, the original poster asserted that better results could be obtained. Since this is an audio newsgroup (and not r.a.o) and high fidelity is the traditional thrust, I chose to define "better results" as more accuracy. So even if it sounds better, it is not more faithful to the original, and thas CANNOT be better. >Obviously, you are absolutely right - no harm comes from delivering more >information to the ear than it can reliably discern - the ear is very good at >picking selected information out of a maelstrom. However, its capablities are >bounded, and that is why MP3 works at all. Yes. This reminds me, in a JAES article on codecs, Dolby AC-3 did pretty poorly. I hope there is room for improvement, or we will be stuck with some pretty archaic, bad-sounding crap from now on, seeing as how the industry has decided to get in bed with Dolby. Please tell me that AC-3 can be improved via software!!! AAC is also not usable through MPEG2/L2,3 decoders. -- John busenitz@earthlink.net
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 109f11,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gid109f11,public X-Google-Thread: 10ff83,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ff83,public X-Google-Thread: 105a81,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gid105a81,public X-Google-Thread: fb1f8,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1f8,public X-Google-Thread: f6728,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gidf6728,public X-Google-Thread: 10d85e,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d85e,public From: "John Busenitz" <busenitz@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: MP3 Vs ATRAC : Which is worse ? Date: 1999/01/15 Message-ID: <77opvo$ovj$1@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Deja-AN: 433180391 References: <77bvje$q3o$3@justice.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> <369A4971.D050DBD3@usa.net> <77guj5$l6$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <369e64ae.111865782@nntp.wpi.edu> <77jcvs$9lk$1@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <Z6mn2.37$fL1.337@news.flash.net> X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-ELN-Date: 16 Jan 1999 01:28:24 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Fri Jan 15 17:35:04 1999 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Newsgroups: rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.misc,hk.rec.audio-visual,uk.rec.audio,tw.bbs.rec.audiophile