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Article #1015Re: MP3 Vs ATRAC : Which is worse ?
From: Dan Bridges
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:00
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>There is an MPEG-4 standard, but it's not issued yet. >There is a new MPEG audio standard in MPEG-2 that is issued, >that has shown much better performance than MP3 or any of the other >tested algorithms in tests run with known and well-tested encoders >of good performance. I suggest all interested readers get <http://www.cselt.it/mpeg/public/w2006.zip> This is a 45 page Word 6 doc with graphs & tables. It is dated Feb 98, called ORGANISATION INTERNATIONALE DE NORMALISATION ISO/IEC JTC1/SC29/WG11 CODING OF MOVING PICTURES AND AUDIO Report on the MPEG-2 AAC Stereo Verification Tests David Meares, BBC R&D, Kingswood Warren, UK Kaoru Watanabe, NHK, Tokyo, Japan Eric Scheirer, MIT Media Labs, USA 31 listeners in the field of professional audio took part in a double-blind test. 2-3 in the room at a time. 30 min per session. 8 sessions per person over two days. A statistical analysis of seat position was undertaken and the first two seat positions were found to give reliable results so the third seat position was dropped leaving 22 listeners. Ten solo instrumental and musical excerpts were presented in a 30-min session. Guided listener training was performed beforehand. From Figure 5. The mean Diffscores (estimated off graph) were AAC Main 128 .18 AAC LC 128 .22 AAC SSR 128 .35 AAC Main 96 .55 AAC LC 96 .68 MP2 192 .70 MP3 .95 Q. "Is the performance of the AAC codecs at the tested bitrate achieving 'indistinguishable quality' in the EBU definition of that phrase?" A. "Thus, we see the the AAC Main 128 and LC 128 codecs provide 'indistinguishable quality' in the EBU sense of the phrase." Mean score of the *lowest* test result of the most critical (i.e. lowest-rated) test item for each codec. [DB: This is not the average of each codecs results but it is the worst result for any of the 10 tests (i.e. when the encoder experiences its greatest failure in hiding its manipulations)] AAC Main 128 4.42 AAC LC 128 3.85 AAC SSR 128 3.74 AAC Main 96 3.48 AAC LC 96 3.14 MP2 192 2.32 (on the Pitch Pipe sample) MP3 1.63 (on the Pitch Pipe sample) Where 5 = Imperceptible 4 = Perceptible but not annoying 3 = Slightly annoying 2 = Annoying 1 = Very Annoying Conclusions: The overall conclusion is that, when auditioning using loudspeakers, AAC coding, according to the ISO/IEC 13818-7 standard gives a level of stereo performance superior that given by MPEG-1 Layer II and Layer III coders. The test process was intended to answer the following set of questions which form the detailed conclusions of this study: Q. Is the performance of AAC codecs at the tested bitrate equal to or better than the performance of MPEG-1 Layer II and Layer III? A. Section 10.6 presents the answer to this. Overall, all AAC profiles at 128 kbps give significantly better performance than do MPEG-1 Layer II at 192 kbps or Layer III at 128 kbps. Therefore the goal of high audio quality at 64 kbps per channel for MPEG-2 AAC has been achieved. Both AAC Main Profile and Low Complexity Profile provide quality at 96 kbps that is comparable to MPEG-1 Layer II at 192 kbps, and therefore give a 2 to 1 compression advantage. In addition, AAC Main Profile at 96 kbps gives better results than MPEG-1 Layer III at 128 kbps. Q. Are the listeners' results reliable, i.e. distinguishable from random votes? A. The analysis conducted in Section 10.2 concludes that all listeners returned reliable results. Q. Does the test methodology allow meaningful conclusions to be drawn from these results? A. The analysis confirms that meaningful conclusions can be drawn from these results. The effect SEAT was shown to be significant in its own right, particularly with reference to the rearmost seat position. However, as there were only a limited number of listeners who used this position and as the results from the other two seats could be combined, the further analysis only made use of the results from the front and centre seat positions. Q. How does the performance of the codecs vary with programme items? A. This is shown in full in section 11. It is shown that all coders perform, to some extent, differently depending on the type of programme item with which they are being tested. Q. Is the performance of the coding of AAC codecs at the tested bitrate distinguishable from the original signal? A. Sections 10.7 and 11 show that there is a statistical difference between the source and coded items, both overall and for some specific items. However, there were a large number of items for which no difference was recorded. Q. Is the performance of AAC codecs at the tested bitrate achieving `indistinguishable quality' in the EBU definition of that phrase? A. AAC Main Profile at 128 kbps and AAC Low Complexity Profile at 128 kbps both provided `indistinguishable quality' and AAC SSR Profile at 128 kbps failed to achieve this by margin of less than 1% relative to the decision criterion. Q. Is the following requirement of ITU-R Recommendation BS.1115 [5] fulfilled? "For emission, the most critical material for the codecs must be such that the degradation may be `perceptible but not annoying' (grade 4)." A. AAC Main Profile at 128 kbps passes this criterion. Give me AAC, please Cheers, Dan.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109f11,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gid109f11,public X-Google-Thread: 10d85e,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d85e,public X-Google-Thread: f6728,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gidf6728,public X-Google-Thread: 105a81,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gid105a81,public X-Google-Thread: fb1f8,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1f8,public X-Google-Thread: 10ff83,8f9482d021558bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ff83,public From: "Dan Bridges" <dbs@rpdata.net.au> Subject: Re: MP3 Vs ATRAC : Which is worse ? Date: 1999/01/14 Message-ID: <eOdn2.94$%i.7164@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net> X-Deja-AN: 432403796 References: <77bvje$q3o$3@justice.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> <6Vkm2.2$gu6.139@news.flash.net> <77e3tm$mop$1@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <F5GK4F.CC2@research.att.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telstra.net X-Trace: nsw.nnrp.telstra.net 916285706 203.8.17.20 (Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:48:26 EST) Organization: Telstra Big Pond Direct NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:48:26 EST Newsgroups: rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.misc,hk.rec.audio-visual,uk.rec.audio,tw.bbs.rec.audiophile