🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: rec.audio.tech
Article #1017

Re: MP3 Vs ATRAC : Which is worse ?

#1017
From: jj, curmudgeon and tiring philal...
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:00
28 lines
2413 bytes
In article <77jcvs$9lk$1@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
John Busenitz <busenitz@earthlink.net> wrote:
>"Supposed to" and "does" are two very different things. MP3 sometimes
>gets close, maybe even occasionally indistinguishable, but but it
>is not a completely transparent codec. There is a lot of proof of this,
>the JAES article on this very topic is one.
Indeed, on the other hand, how does this justify the claim below:

>It doesn't matter. It CANNOT have any more information than was on
>the CD-audio signal from which it was recorded. At BEST, it can sound
>the same.
OK so far.

>Most likely it exhibits audible coloration, ranging from
>barely audibly to annoying.

At what Bit Rate, John? THAT matters. 128kb/s is pushing it for 
Mpeg-2 Layer 3. It's NOT pushing it for MPEG-2 AAC, and even 192 kb/s
is pushing it for MPEG-1/2 Layer 2.

It all depends on bit rate and coder.

At 256 kb/s/stereo pair, MP3 is REAL good.
-- 
Copyright jj@research.att.com 1998, all rights reserved, except transmission
by USENET and like facilities granted.   This notice must be included.  Any
use by a provider charging in any way for the IP represented in and by this
article and any inclusion in print or other media are specifically prohibited. 
Technical Details
Message-ID: <F5KG4x.FIp@research.att.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!unknown!not-for-mail
References: <77bvje$q3o$3@justice.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> <77guj5$l6$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <369e64ae.111865782@nntp.wpi.edu> <77jcvs$9lk$1@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: fb1f8,8f9482d021558bd9
X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1f8,public
X-Google-Thread: f6728,8f9482d021558bd9
X-Google-Attributes: gidf6728,public
X-Google-Thread: 109f11,8f9482d021558bd9
X-Google-Attributes: gid109f11,public
X-Google-Thread: 10ff83,8f9482d021558bd9
X-Google-Attributes: gid10ff83,public
X-Google-Thread: 10d85e,8f9482d021558bd9
X-Google-Attributes: gid10d85e,public
X-Google-Thread: 105a81,8f9482d021558bd9
X-Google-Attributes: gid105a81,public
From: jj@research.att.com (jj, curmudgeon and tiring philalethist)
Subject: Re: MP3 Vs ATRAC : Which is worse ?
Date: 1999/01/14
Message-ID: <F5KG4x.FIp@research.att.com>
X-Deja-AN: 432665833
Sender: nntp@research.att.com
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: canon.research.att.com
References: <77bvje$q3o$3@justice.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> <77guj5$l6$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <369e64ae.111865782@nntp.wpi.edu> <77jcvs$9lk$1@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
Organization: New Jersey Home for the Terminally Confused
Newsgroups: rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.misc,hk.rec.audio-visual,uk.rec.audio,tw.bbs.rec.audiophile