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Article #113Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?
From: Sander deWaal
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:01
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:01
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Howard Ferstler <ferstle@attglobal.net> said: >> >> >This, from a guy who claims that his special amp (or one >> >> >that he sells, since I do not believe he designed it) has >> >> >qualities that set it apart from all other decently designed >> >> >versions. Yeah, it may sound different, but if so that is >> >> >because there is something seriously wrong with it. >> >> Here I have two exactly the same Pioneer receivers, which, by your >> >> previous admission, will sound adequate enough. >> >> One of the two has both its tone controls set to 3 o'clock, the tone >> >> controls of the other amp are in straight position. >> >> They both sound different on the same speakers. >> >> Is there something seriously wrong with amp nr. 1 or amp nr. 2? >> >> And why? >> >Properly align the tone controls on the first receiver, >> >tweako. Even you should realize that cranking over the tone >> >controls will make that receiver sound different from the >> >one with the controls nulled out. >> Good. >> Now re-read your first paragraph and explain to me why, when a >> component sounds different, there's "something seriously wrong" with >> it. Please. >Because with audio gear (amps, players, wires, definitely) >the components with fixed outputs or fixed abilities should >be transparent. If a user wants to modify the sound he >should have the ability to do so as an option. Good. Now we're getting somewhere. Modifying the sound can be done by other means than just tone controls. As a "professional audio clown" you should know that. >Applying the >same colorations to all recordings (as is the case with >those weird amps you build) is like looking at the world >with colored glasses all the time - indoors, outdoors, rain, >or shine. And according to a certain Howard Ferstler this is OK. It says so above: [quote] >If a user wants to modify the sound he >should have the ability to do so as an option. [/quote] This option is available when using one of my amps. >> Remember, the two receivers are exactly the same. >There is no way to judge if one (or perhaps even both) >unless the tone controls are nulled out. You did not do >that. Learn to write. -- "Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes." - Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005
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