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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message 
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> "Harry Lavo" <hlavo@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote
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>>> "Howard Ferstler" <ferstle@attglobal.net> wrote in
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>>> I hate to sound like a subjectivist, but the stuff
> sounded
>>> the same. Oops, a subjectivist would have claimed that
> they
>>> sounded different, with a favored model having all sorts
> of
>>> mesmerizing sound qualities. Yeah, I am a subjectivist
> down
>>> deep, but unlike most other subjectivists I am not
> deluded.
>>
>> This is rich!  Howard claims he is a subjectivist.
>
> I'm also a subjectivist. A scientific or reliable
> subjectivist. I think that how people perceive sound quality
> is more important that mere numbers. However unlike Harry
> I'm not naive about the uncontrolled variables that are
> significant in his wildly anti-scientific and totally
> uncontrolled listening tests.
>

Naive about uncontrolled variables.  I have been challenging you because you 
refuse to consider the possibility that your ABX testing creates the biggest 
uncontrolled variable of all...a block to the brains ability to process 
music in the normal listening sense!

Also, Arny, I'm the one with over twenty years of experience designing 
controlled, blind tests, not you.  The fact that I have proposed something 
more elegant and more sophisticated and at the same time simpler and more 
mainstream as a control test for ABX seems to have you terrified.




> Furthermore, unlike Harry I have a fair amount of hearing
> acuity left. Therefore I can reliably perceive the egregious
> technical problems of the LP format and 30 ips tapes, which
> Harry is well known to be unable to do.
>

I've cited my  hearing Arny.  I've never seen you do so.  And being flat in 
one ear to 16k and down in the other doesn't disqualify me from audio 
judgements.  The brain has a marvelous built in ability to compensate....

You are just throwing up a smokescreen and you know it, since you have been 
unable to even to argue the merits of my proposal or to defend your test in 
any meaningful way, other than falling back on the measurement of sound, 
rather than the evaluation of music.