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Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?

#151
From: Clyde Slick
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:48
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"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:45:13 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:ftubd11nr2i3k69smb2soe3f8j8u0dolk6@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:19:28 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
>>> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>news:8rgad1pnjjkin76a7lhar8ncdsfi7055jg@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:48:10 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
>>>>> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>And the abx test removes our expectations, yet leaves their
>>>>>>>>expectations
>>>>>>>>in.
>>>>>>>>It is a more biased test than subjective listening!!!
>>>>>>>>ABX is hideously flawed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit. What you mean is that ABX doesn't support your absolute
>>>>>>> knowledge that 'high-end' designer label gear *must* sound better 
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> 'Chinky cheapies'.
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>It doesn't support it because it is inherently designed
>>>>>>to purposefully support the opposite conclusion.
>>>>>>It is NOT a neutral test. It does not remove
>>>>>>the expectation effects of those who
>>>>>>have preconceived notions that there are no differences.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly you have no idea that these tests are used every day by major
>>>>> audio manufacturers, for the precise purpose of *revealing* small but
>>>>> real audible differences made by their R&D guys. Cretin.
>>>>>
>>>>And who are the subjects taking such tests?
>>>
>>> The R&D engineers, and for final judgements, selected panels of
>>> listeners.
>>>
>>
>>Are they surveyed as to their
>>perconceptions?
>
> Since the tests are blind, preconceptions are irrelevant. You never
> did grasp the basics, did you Art?
>

Blind tests do not eliminate preconceptions that two items will be the same.
you never have grasped that, Stewart. 



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