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Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?

#187
From: Stewart Pinkerton
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:53
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 02:00:14 -0500, dave weil <dweil2@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:14:09 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
><patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:38:12 -0500, dave weil <dweil2@bellsouth.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:21:54 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
>>><patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:20:58 -0500, dave weil <dweil2@bellsouth.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:47:17 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
>>>>><patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nowadays, they mostly don't. Most modern R&D in amps and CD players is
>>>>>>biased towards cost reduction. That's why my 'Chinky cheapy' Pioneer
>>>>>>DV-575A will play any kind of silver disc while providing sound
>>>>>>quality identical to that of a SOTA 'audiophile brand' CD player
>>>>>
>>>>>Care to provide the dbt details that supports your statement?
>>>>
>>>>Same protocol as always, and compared with a Meridian 588.
>>>
>>>So, when you said "*a* SOTA 'audiophile brand' CD player", you were
>>>speaking only of the Meridian, not any other player, right? It sounded
>>>as if you were speaking "generally".
>>
>>Nice try, but no cigar. I've compared numerous 'audiophile' players to
>>the Sony in the last five years, and the only one that sounded
>>different was the Audio Note - which is *seriously* broken! Even a
>>Naim CDX (IIRC) didn't sound different, although I have previously
>>heard Naims which were also somewhat broken in an attempt to sound
>>different from the 'common herd'. Having innards which are invariably
>>at least five years behind the mass market doesn't help, of course...
>
>OK, dbt details please. 

You've seen them posted dozens of times, so stop whining. Same
proptocols every time, and except for the broken by design 'high end'
model noted, the results are always the same - no statistically
significant difference.

>BTW, what do you mean by "nice try but no cigar"? I asked you for
>details and you named only one player. So I was right that you WERE
>speaking generally.

As you are perfectly well aware, I *was* speaking generally, because
I've not only tested *one* 'audiophile' player. Just because you whine
and cry about 'details', doesn't mean that anyone is obliged to supply
them.
-- 

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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From: Stewart Pinkerton <patent3@dircon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.opinion,aus.hi-fi
Subject: Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:53:10 +0000 (UTC)
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