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Article #191Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?
From: Arny Krueger
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:21
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:21
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"Clyde Slick" <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote in message news:42d6dd69_1@spool9-east.superfeed.net > "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:ftubd11nr2i3k69smb2soe3f8j8u0dolk6@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:19:28 -0400, "Clyde Slick" >> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:8rgad1pnjjkin76a7lhar8ncdsfi7055jg@4ax.com... >>>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:48:10 -0400, "Clyde Slick" >>>> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>>>>>> And the abx test removes our expectations, yet leaves >>>>>>> their expectations >>>>>>> in. >>>>>>> It is a more biased test than subjective listening!!! >>>>>>> ABX is hideously flawed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bullshit. What you mean is that ABX doesn't support your >>>>>> absolute knowledge that 'high-end' designer label gear >>>>>> *must* sound better than 'Chinky cheapies'. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> It doesn't support it because it is inherently designed >>>>> to purposefully support the opposite conclusion. >>>>> It is NOT a neutral test. It does not remove >>>>> the expectation effects of those who >>>>> have preconceived notions that there are no differences. >>>> >>>> Clearly you have no idea that these tests are used every >>>> day by major audio manufacturers, for the precise purpose >>>> of *revealing* small but real audible differences made by >>>> their R&D guys. Cretin. >>>> >>> And who are the subjects taking such tests? >> >> The R&D engineers, and for final judgements, selected panels >> of listeners. >> > > I mean, are they surveyed as to their preconceptions regarding > the two particular devices, parts, designs, etc. being > compared? 4 identical responses to the same post, and a 5th which says about the same thing. Someone really has Art's dander up!
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