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Article #247Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?
From: Stewart Pinkerton
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 05:44
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 05:44
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:19:28 -0400, "Clyde Slick" <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote: >"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message >news:8rgad1pnjjkin76a7lhar8ncdsfi7055jg@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:48:10 -0400, "Clyde Slick" >> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>And the abx test removes our expectations, yet leaves their expectations >>>>>in. >>>>>It is a more biased test than subjective listening!!! >>>>>ABX is hideously flawed. >>>> >>>> Bullshit. What you mean is that ABX doesn't support your absolute >>>> knowledge that 'high-end' designer label gear *must* sound better than >>>> 'Chinky cheapies'. >>>> -- >>>> >>>It doesn't support it because it is inherently designed >>>to purposefully support the opposite conclusion. >>>It is NOT a neutral test. It does not remove >>>the expectation effects of those who >>>have preconceived notions that there are no differences. >> >> Clearly you have no idea that these tests are used every day by major >> audio manufacturers, for the precise purpose of *revealing* small but >> real audible differences made by their R&D guys. Cretin. >> >And who are the subjects taking such tests? The R&D engineers, and for final judgements, selected panels of listeners. -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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