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Article #259Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?
From: Arny Krueger
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:01
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:01
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"jeffc" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:I2mBe.40159$XA.406165@twister.southeast.rr.com > "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:l5c9d19ivsrrmiv7rl8ugfuvursmro2rq2@4ax.com... >>>> >>> >>> Damn it, there are those pesky expectation effects again. >> >> Indeed - that's why the tests are done blind........... > Another idiotic conclusion. As if your ignorant false claims that ears are more sensitive than any test equipment indicate any special smarts on your part, Jeff. >It's no harder to convince > yourself that 2 components sound exactly the same in DBT than > it is to convince yourself that they sound different in > sighted testing. You're wrong on many counts, Jeff. First off, its harder to convince yourself of anything in a DBT simply because DBTs take a lot more work - far more work than idlers like you or high end audiophile press are willing to do. Secondly, most audiophiles, even those who have done dozens of DBTs still seem to nurture some hope that they will be able to hear the difference this time. Thirdly Jeff, DBTs put the listener into a position where they know for sure that the only way they have to go is to actually hear a difference. In the bogus non-level-matched, non-time-synched, sighted evaluations you've done and that you base your decisions on, people can generally easily hear differences based on the non-existent level-matching, the non-existent synchonization of the music, and of course the evidence of their eyes.
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