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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:58:40 +0300, Fella <nosp@m.here> wrote:
> 
> Most modern R&D in amps and CD players is
> biased towards cost reduction. That's why my 'Chinky cheapy' Pioneer
> DV-575A will play any kind of silver disc while providing sound
> quality identical to that of a SOTA 'audiophile brand' CD player.


I've tried to dissect this little statement of yours up there. Just made 
no sense to me. So modern r&d amps (what's an "r&d" amp? Research and 
development amp? What is that?) and CD players *"is"* biased towards 
cost reduction and this gives your pioneer dvd player exactly the same 
sound as a naim, for instance.. Hmm... How does that work out?


> It
> also plays movies!

Well hardy har har! Congrats there old boy!

> 
> 
> If you've really been there and done that, you'll know that they
> really do work.

If your sense of "work" means that they curtain enough detail, where 
real consequential differences lie, plus the "test" situation, and make 
everything sound the same, then yes, they do work.


> 
> 
>>This *is* about envy with you low-income nerd types, isn't it? You 
>>imagine your yamaha metallic sound $120 receiver as sounding the same as 
>>some $5000 BAT integrated amp, yes? That's how you are able to consume 
>>that edgy, glaringly digital, transistor sound you get from your piece 
>>of shit gear.
> 
> 
> You really are a prat, aren't you?

Pace, rhythm and timing? Yes, when done correctly, always a good thing.

> 
> See my page here: http://www.lurcher.org/ukra/

Wouv! I am impressed.

But wait a sec.. You say:

"Interconnects are home-brewed unshielded twisted pair made from 0.6mm 
solid-core Teflon-coated silver-clad OFHC copper (just standard MIL-spec 
hookup wire), while connectors are either Neutrik  XLR or Deltron 
Teflon/alloy RCA jacks."

What's that? Solid core silver clad-OFHC-copper-teflon-bla-bla bla??! 
WIRE IS WIRE!! As dumbmika would put it.

And what? "Sony CDP715E � a curious player, not a �flagship� by any 
means, but it brought together all Sony�s best CD chips in a way not 
really improved" bla bla..

So just *how* does a CD player become "flagship" ? That yours is not a 
flagship? Don't they all sound the same?

No but seriously, you should think more about speaker placement, your 
"rack" seems to get in the way. :) You should get yourself a decent 
rack, too, btw.  And.. Yes, you owe yourself this audition:

http://www.bladelius.com/freja.html

Just get this (though dunno if you _can_ where you live, wherever that 
might be, who cares! if not get a Linn univesal player) and hook it up. 
You *will* hear an abundance of all kinds of differences... ALL for the 
better! Don't mess with any DBT sessions to verify this though. JUST 
TRUST YOUR FRIGGIN EARS FERCHRISSAKES! Do you do a DBT when you eat some 
better tasting meal at a gourmet restaurant? NO! You sit there and eat it.


> 
> Piece of shit gear? I don't think so................

So why don't you use some $200 yamaha integrated amp (or whatever the 
fuck they might cost arny!) as an amp? Level matched and fixed volume 
and all that they all sound the same? What's with that "exotic" amp? 
"krell" ?? Ain't never heard of no "kkrelll" in circuitcity, haha! (or 
wherever the fuck you should be getting your electronics from)..