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Article #283Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?
From: Stewart Pinkerton
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:39
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:39
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:48:10 -0400, "Clyde Slick" <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote: > >"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message >news:97c9d1hmhthem3b89f02jiphm8ahgj4mqm@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:13:32 -0400, "Clyde Slick" >> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Harry Lavo" <hlavo@comcast.net> wrote in message >>>news:3t2dnYqMZtkjVU7fRVn-tg@comcast.com... >>>> >>>> "Clyde Slick" <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote in message >>>> news:42d36070$1_2@spool9-east.superfeed.net... >>>>> >>>>> "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>> news:eqm6d1p2dotgtu1j7vhck3gie5t6sbs3qk@4ax.com... >>>>>> On 11 Jul 2005 17:27:35 -0700, calcerise@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Arny isn't too keen on actually listening to audio products, since >>>>>>>they should all sound the same according to tests. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>In level-matched blind listening tests, these three >>>>>> players sound identical - as any reasonable person would expect. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Damn it, there are those pesky expectation effects again. >>>> >>>> Clyde, don't you know that "expectation effects" only apply to those of >>>> us >>>> who disagree? Has nothing to do with those who *know* there is no >>>> difference. :-) >>> >>>And the abx test removes our expectations, yet leaves their expectations >>>in. >>>It is a more biased test than subjective listening!!! >>>ABX is hideously flawed. >> >> Bullshit. What you mean is that ABX doesn't support your absolute >> knowledge that 'high-end' designer label gear *must* sound better than >> 'Chinky cheapies'. >> -- >> >It doesn't support it because it is inherently designed >to purposefully support the opposite conclusion. >It is NOT a neutral test. It does not remove >the expectation effects of those who >have preconceived notions that there are no differences. Clearly you have no idea that these tests are used every day by major audio manufacturers, for the precise purpose of *revealing* small but real audible differences made by their R&D guys. Cretin. -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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