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Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?

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From: Clyde Slick
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:14
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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message 
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> "Clyde Slick" <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:42d4ff39$1_1@spool9-east.superfeed.net
>> "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in
> message
>> news:97c9d1hmhthem3b89f02jiphm8ahgj4mqm@4ax.com...
>
>>> Bullshit. What you mean is that ABX doesn't support your
>>> absolute knowledge that 'high-end' designer label gear
> *must*
>>> sound better than 'Chinky cheapies'.
>
>> It doesn't support it because it is inherently designed
>> to purposefully support the opposite conclusion.
>
> This is the usual audiophilia-dupe answer, which is what we
> should expect from an audiophilia-dupe like Art.
>
> Please note that Art has so much confidence in his baseless
> accusations that he doesn't even post under his true name.
> Art is obviously afraid of his senseless natterings on
> Usenet being associated with his true identity.
>

So much for my secret identity!


> I know exactly how ABX was designed because I was there when
> it was designed almost 30 years ago. ABX was designed to be
> as sensitive as possible to audible differences.
>
>> It is NOT a neutral test.
>
> ABX is as neutral of a test for consciiously-perceived
> differences as is known to exist.
>
It's not neutral towards those
who preconcieve that there will be no difference

>> It does not remove  the expectation effects of those who
>> have preconceived notions that there are no differences.
>
> ABX tests and other DBTs can be used to determine when a
> listener is biased against hearing differences. You simply
> present candidate listeners with audible differences that
> other listeners have been able to hear in DBTs without much
> difficulty. If the listener develops random results when
> listening to differences that are known to be readily
> audible in DBTs or by other means, then it is proof or at
> least a strong indication that he is biased against hearing
> differences.
>

That has nothing to do with the preconceptions
about any differences or preferences betweeen the two test items.
Your pretest does not address that issue, its
irrelevant.



> The PCABX web site uses a "Listener Training Test" to filter
> out listners and listening environments that are biased
> against hearing differences. This facility is freely
> available at http://www.pcabx.com/training/index.htm .
>

That has nothing to do with any [reconceptions
about the two items to be comapred for preference.



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