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Article #285Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?
From: Clyde Slick
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:14
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:14
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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:rvadnZznXqTJm0jfRVn-pg@comcast.com... > "Clyde Slick" <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:42d4ff39$1_1@spool9-east.superfeed.net >> "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in > message >> news:97c9d1hmhthem3b89f02jiphm8ahgj4mqm@4ax.com... > >>> Bullshit. What you mean is that ABX doesn't support your >>> absolute knowledge that 'high-end' designer label gear > *must* >>> sound better than 'Chinky cheapies'. > >> It doesn't support it because it is inherently designed >> to purposefully support the opposite conclusion. > > This is the usual audiophilia-dupe answer, which is what we > should expect from an audiophilia-dupe like Art. > > Please note that Art has so much confidence in his baseless > accusations that he doesn't even post under his true name. > Art is obviously afraid of his senseless natterings on > Usenet being associated with his true identity. > So much for my secret identity! > I know exactly how ABX was designed because I was there when > it was designed almost 30 years ago. ABX was designed to be > as sensitive as possible to audible differences. > >> It is NOT a neutral test. > > ABX is as neutral of a test for consciiously-perceived > differences as is known to exist. > It's not neutral towards those who preconcieve that there will be no difference >> It does not remove the expectation effects of those who >> have preconceived notions that there are no differences. > > ABX tests and other DBTs can be used to determine when a > listener is biased against hearing differences. You simply > present candidate listeners with audible differences that > other listeners have been able to hear in DBTs without much > difficulty. If the listener develops random results when > listening to differences that are known to be readily > audible in DBTs or by other means, then it is proof or at > least a strong indication that he is biased against hearing > differences. > That has nothing to do with the preconceptions about any differences or preferences betweeen the two test items. Your pretest does not address that issue, its irrelevant. > The PCABX web site uses a "Listener Training Test" to filter > out listners and listening environments that are biased > against hearing differences. This facility is freely > available at http://www.pcabx.com/training/index.htm . > That has nothing to do with any [reconceptions about the two items to be comapred for preference. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
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