🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: rec.audio.tech
Article #317

Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?

#317
From: Stewart Pinkerton
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:14
38 lines
3125 bytes
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:13:32 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
<YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>"Harry Lavo" <hlavo@comcast.net> wrote in message 
>news:3t2dnYqMZtkjVU7fRVn-tg@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Clyde Slick" <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote in message 
>> news:42d36070$1_2@spool9-east.superfeed.net...
>>>
>>> "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message 
>>> news:eqm6d1p2dotgtu1j7vhck3gie5t6sbs3qk@4ax.com...
>>>> On 11 Jul 2005 17:27:35 -0700, calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Arny isn't too keen on actually listening to audio products, since
>>>>>they should all sound the same according to tests.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In level-matched blind listening tests, these three
>>>> players sound identical - as any reasonable person would expect.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Damn it, there are those pesky expectation effects again.
>>
>> Clyde, don't you know that "expectation effects" only apply to those of us 
>> who disagree?  Has nothing to do with those who *know* there is no 
>> difference.  :-)
>
>And the abx test removes our expectations, yet leaves their expectations in.
>It is a more biased test than subjective listening!!!
>ABX is hideously flawed. 

Bullshit. What you mean is that ABX doesn't support your absolute
knowledge that 'high-end' designer label gear *must* sound better than
'Chinky cheapies'.
-- 

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
Technical Details
Message-ID: <97c9d1hmhthem3b89f02jiphm8ahgj4mqm@4ax.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsread.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!nntp.abs.net!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!carbon.eu.sun.com!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail
References: <1121114855.242261.233780@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <nvudnQM4L7jNf0_fRVn-sQ@comcast.com> <42d2e8c0@news.comindico.com.au> <nNKdnUPYaeZ-nU7fRVn-3w@comcast.com> <42d30ad7@news.comindico.com.au> <1121128055.605529.107300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <eqm6d1p2dotgtu1j7vhck3gie5t6sbs3qk@4ax.com> <42d36070$1_2@spool9-east.superfeed.net> <3t2dnYqMZtkjVU7fRVn-tg@comcast.com> <42d4404e$1_1@spool9-east.superfeed.net>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: fb1f8,85de6927d4801af4
X-Google-Thread: 109f11,85de6927d4801af4
X-Google-Thread: 10d85e,85de6927d4801af4
X-Google-Thread: 108c0a,85de6927d4801af4
X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1f8,gid109f11,gid10d85e,gid108c0a,public
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsread.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!nntp.abs.net!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!carbon.eu.sun.com!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail
From: Stewart Pinkerton <patent3@dircon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.opinion,aus.hi-fi
Subject: Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:14:05 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: BT Openworld
Lines: 38
Message-ID: <97c9d1hmhthem3b89f02jiphm8ahgj4mqm@4ax.com>
References: <1121114855.242261.233780@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <nvudnQM4L7jNf0_fRVn-sQ@comcast.com> <42d2e8c0@news.comindico.com.au> <nNKdnUPYaeZ-nU7fRVn-3w@comcast.com> <42d30ad7@news.comindico.com.au> <1121128055.605529.107300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <eqm6d1p2dotgtu1j7vhck3gie5t6sbs3qk@4ax.com> <42d36070$1_2@spool9-east.superfeed.net> <3t2dnYqMZtkjVU7fRVn-tg@comcast.com> <42d4404e$1_1@spool9-east.superfeed.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: host217-43-240-163.range217-43.btcentralplus.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com 1121235245 13150 217.43.240.163 (13 Jul 2005 06:14:05 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:14:05 +0000 (UTC)
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)