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Article #319Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?
From: Stewart Pinkerton
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:16
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:16
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:45:15 -0400, "Clyde Slick" <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote: > >"Howard Ferstler" <ferstle@attglobal.net> wrote in message >news:42D47BFB.8C63757F@attglobal.net... >> Clyde Slick wrote: >>> >>> "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:eqm6d1p2dotgtu1j7vhck3gie5t6sbs3qk@4ax.com... >>> > On 11 Jul 2005 17:27:35 -0700, calcerise@hotmail.com wrote: >>> > >>> >> Arny isn't too keen on actually listening to audio products, since >>> >>they should all sound the same according to tests. >> >>> >In level-matched blind listening tests, these three >>> > players sound identical - as any reasonable person would expect. >> >>> Damn it, there are those pesky expectation effects again. >> >> You are just trying to rationalize the fact that you simply >> must have something exotic and esoteric to believe in. (That >> this involves audio gear and not some kind of religious >> deity and a need for salvation shows a monumental smallness >> of mind.) That you place expectation effects higher up on >> the scale than simply not hearing differences during a DBT >> says more about you as a true believer than it does about >> any kind of audio gear. >> >Take a good look at the test methodology, it only accounts >for eliminating one side of the expectation effects, the expectation >that there will be differences. It does not address eliminating expectation >effects, based upon an expectation that they will sound the same. Thus, >this so-called "unbiased" test is actually quite biased towards >producing your "expected" results. Bullshit. Those tests are taken by people from both sides of the fence. The results are the same, only the reactions vary! :-) -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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