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Article #324Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?
From: Stewart Pinkerton
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:47
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:47
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:58:40 +0300, Fella <nosp@m.here> wrote: >Stewart Pinkerton wrote: > >>>DBT tests for audio are actually designed to >>>provide a biased result of there being no difference. >> >> >> Bullshit. They're used every day by mainstream manufacturers to >> determine whether design changes had any *real* audible effect. > >Since everything sounds the same all the time why should any "design >changes" have a "*real*" audible effect? Nowadays, they mostly don't. Most modern R&D in amps and CD players is biased towards cost reduction. That's why my 'Chinky cheapy' Pioneer DV-575A will play any kind of silver disc while providing sound quality identical to that of a SOTA 'audiophile brand' CD player. It also plays movies! > Sice amps and CD players are at >the zenith of perfection, since they can't be bettered in any way (so >say your tests) why would any "mainstream manufacturers" bother to make >any "design changes" ? See above > >DBT's do not work, been there done that. Simple fact. If you've really been there and done that, you'll know that they really do work. Of course, if you were *expecting* that they'd prove how 'high-end' gear sounds better, then I'm not surprised that you're disappointed.............. >This *is* about envy with you low-income nerd types, isn't it? You >imagine your yamaha metallic sound $120 receiver as sounding the same as >some $5000 BAT integrated amp, yes? That's how you are able to consume >that edgy, glaringly digital, transistor sound you get from your piece >of shit gear. You really are a prat, aren't you? See my page here: http://www.lurcher.org/ukra/ Piece of shit gear? I don't think so................ -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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