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Article #368Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?
From: Howard Ferstler
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:29
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:29
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Harry Lavo wrote: > > "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message > news:xomdnZD0_oy0u0nfRVn-1A@comcast.com... > > "Harry Lavo" <hlavo@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> Do you never look at the dynamic range > >> measurements that John A publishes on every high rez > > player. > > Harry, as is your usual lying habit, you're changing the > > topic from where you made your gross mistake to something > > that sounds like it to the naive readers. In this case > > you're changing the topic from the dynamic range of the SACD > > and DVD-A formats which is where you made your gross > > mistake, to the performance of real-world SACD and DVD-A > > equipment. > Oh perish the thought, Arny, that I should be dealing with the 'real world' > as you so derisively put it. That happens to be where I, other audiophiles, > and the equipment manufacturers themselves live, Arny. Theory that can't be > replicated in reality is the stuff of your fantasies, not mine. > > Harry, when you are willing to start treating me with the > > tinyist amount of honesty, I'll consider responding to your > > posts again. But I know that you are unable to stop lying, > > first and foremost to yourself. > Once again Arny ducks out when his fallacies have been uncovered. Harry, I really do not know what you are trying to sell. The only advantage SACD and DVD-A have over the CD is surround sound. Ironically, Dolby Digital and DTS can do the "subjective" job in that area as well as the so-called high-resolution formats. In addition, a good, home-based DSP synthesizing device can take a two-channel CD and often make it sound subjectively BETTER than the remastered SACD or DVD-A version, which, if we are talking about older original releases, are often taken from two-channel masters and given the DSP treatment by the recording engineers prior to producing the new version. Note that this refers to concert-hall realism with classical material and not pop recordings that often have instruments all around the listener with SACD and DVD-A versions. Obviously, no amount of home-based DSP work with the two-channel versions can duplicate that. But who here with any musical taste cares? In any case, the dynamic range and extended bandwidth "advantages" of SACD and DVD-A are meaningless embellishments to an existing digital technology that needs no such thing to make music sound more dynamic or transparent. Phoniness has finally taken over audio. Howard Ferstler
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