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"Howard Ferstler" <ferstle@attglobal.net> wrote in message 
news:42D46E83.2CB01F1@attglobal.net...
> Harry Lavo wrote:
>>
>> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
>> news:xomdnZD0_oy0u0nfRVn-1A@comcast.com...
>> > "Harry Lavo" <hlavo@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
>> >> Do you never look at the dynamic range
>> >> measurements that John A publishes on every high rez
>> > player.
>
>> > Harry, as is your usual lying habit, you're changing the
>> > topic from where you made your gross mistake to something
>> > that sounds like it to the naive readers. In this case
>> > you're changing the topic from the dynamic range of the SACD
>> > and DVD-A formats which is where you made your gross
>> > mistake, to the performance of real-world SACD and DVD-A
>> > equipment.
>
>> Oh perish the thought, Arny, that I should be dealing with the 'real 
>> world'
>> as you so derisively put it.  That happens to be where I, other 
>> audiophiles,
>> and the equipment manufacturers themselves live, Arny.  Theory that can't 
>> be
>> replicated in reality is the stuff of your fantasies, not mine.
>
>> > Harry, when you are willing to start treating me with the
>> > tinyist amount of honesty, I'll consider responding to your
>> > posts again. But I know that you are unable to stop lying,
>> > first and foremost to yourself.
>
>> Once again Arny ducks out when his fallacies have been uncovered.
>
> Harry, I really do not know what you are trying to sell.
>
> The only advantage SACD and DVD-A have over the CD is
> surround sound. Ironically, Dolby Digital and DTS can do the
> "subjective" job in that area as well as the so-called
> high-resolution formats. In addition, a good, home-based DSP
> synthesizing device can take a two-channel CD and often make
> it sound subjectively BETTER than the remastered SACD or
> DVD-A version, which, if we are talking about older original
> releases, are often taken from two-channel masters and given
> the DSP treatment by the recording engineers prior to
> producing the new version. Note that this refers to
> concert-hall realism with classical material and not pop
> recordings that often have instruments all around the
> listener with SACD and DVD-A versions. Obviously, no amount
> of home-based DSP work with the two-channel versions can
> duplicate that. But who here with any musical taste cares?
>
> In any case, the dynamic range and extended bandwidth
> "advantages" of SACD and DVD-A are meaningless
> embellishments to an existing digital technology that needs
> no such thing to make music sound more dynamic or
> transparent.
>
> Phoniness has finally taken over audio.
>

Nice little rant, Howard.  Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with the 
topic Arny and I were discussing.