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Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?

#47
From: Howard Ferstler
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:29
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dpierce@cartchunk.org wrote:
> 
> Howard Ferstler wrote:
> > > Well, you're just plain wrong.
> >
> > I'm certainly willing to learn. Now, with this near short
> > pulling just about all of the juice out of the amp, where
> > does this speaker load, with a resistance way, way higher
> > than the near short in parallel with it, get the juice to
> > make any noise?
> 
> Howard, you know your way around libraries, yeah? At least
> that's the rumor.
> 
> See if you can find your way clear to looking up something
> called "Ohm's Law." When you've mastered that, check out
> "Kirchoff's Current Law."
> 
> Once you've done that, try the following:
> 
>    Imagine a circuit consisting of three resistors hooked
>    to a voltage source. On one side of the voltage source
>    one end of one resistor, call it R1, is connected.
>    On the other side of that resistor, both ends of the other
>    two resistors, called R2 and R3 are connected, and the
>    other sides of those resistors are connected to the
>    other side of the voltage source.
> 
>    If you actually knew something about the topic on which
>    you choose to hold forth, you might recognize the following
>    as a SPICE netlist for the circuit I just described:
> 
>       Vsrc   1   0   AC SIN 10.0 0.0
>       R1     1   2   0.5
>       R2     2   0   4.0
>       R3     2   0   0.2
> 
>    Now, if you did indeed know something, you would notice that
>    R1, which we'll pretend is the resistance of the very thin
>    wire the OP is using is 0.5 Ohm. And the "speaker" has a
>    resistance of 4 ohms, and the "near short" whisker has a
>    resistance of 0.2 ohms.
> 
>    Real quick, Howard, since you are a "widely published" author
>    in the field, can you determine from the above description
>    whether or not ANY signal flows through R2, the "speaker"
>    in this case. If the value is NOT 0, the speaker WILL make
>    sound.

(snips of informative information)

>    Well, Howard, I took a Sony amplifier, which happens to be
>    built pretty much as I described above and hooked it up pretty
>    much like what the OP described AND I GOT EXACTLY THE SAME
>    RESULTS AS THE ORIGINAL POSTER.
> 
>    Well, Howard?
> 
>    Howard?
> 
>    Howard?
> 
>    Are you still with us?
> 
>    Do you now understand why, when people know a LOT more than
>    you, it's because they know a LOT more than you?
> 
>    Do you NOW see why, Howard, you're such a dumb, arrogant
>    moron and why it's a good idea either to make at least a
>    token attempt to understand that which you choose to hold
>    forth as an expert on, or simply drop the silly pretense,
>    admit you're clueless, and go take up shuffleboard to fill
>    out the rest of your retirement in the obscurity you have so
>    richly earned?
> 
>    Haven't you done enough damage with your "books" and
>    "articles?"

Hey, Dick (assuming your commentary really came from Dick
Pierce, an expert I admire considerably),

Regarding the bulk of your comments, thanks very much for
the very well coordinated, easy to read, and helpful package
of information, their sometimes cynical style
notwithstanding. I do indeed now realize that I was wrong
and that my critics (including Trevor) were correct. I
assume that you worked pretty hard at putting that
commentary together, and for that you are to be commended.
You are a darned good teacher. 

By the way, I do understand Ohm's Law to a reasonable
extent, but simply had not bothered to hook up an amp and
see that, indeed, enough current would flow through a
speaker in parallel with a near short to allow that speaker
to at least make a little noise. Yeah, I suppose I probably
should have done some testing, but to tell the truth I would
have been paranoid about possibly damaging an amp. Glad you
set things straight, in any case.

On the other hand, regarding your concluding statements
coming near the end of your informative commentary, dealing
with me and my work as a journalist and the so-called
"damage" I have done with my books (assuming that you have
indeed read through one or more of them), well, Dick, that
was a cheap shot, and so Fuck You, Asshole.

Howard Ferstler
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