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Article #577Re: HD RADIO is no worse than DAB or DRM radio
From: Steve
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:13
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:13
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On Oct 6, 9:10 am, Randy Yates <ya...@ieee.org> wrote:
> Steve <sdanie...@speakeasy.net> writes:
> > On Oct 5, 3:54 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> On Oct 4, 10:45 pm, Telamon
>
> >> <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> >> > In article <KJudnZ1Y2vgpFJjanZ2dnUVZ_vvin...@giganews.com>,
> >> > Robert Orban <donotre...@spamblock.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > In article <telamon_spamshield-
> >> > > FE4A4A.19085230092...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>,
> >> > > telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid says...
>
> >> > > >In article <7HXLi.1757$hI7....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>,
> >> > > > "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > >> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> > > >> news:telamon_spamshield-
> >> > > ACA06D.17572930092...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
>
> >> > > >> >> That's funny, I just asked Bob if he 'found' this and he said no way,
> >> > > >> >> that you're basically just making shit up off the top of your head.
>
> >> > > >> > Bob didn't test all the different model radios.
>
> >> > > >> He tested enough for a reliable sample of what Americans use. I'm guessing
> >> > > >> you don't know who Bob Orban is, so you might google him and the term
> >> > > >> Optimod or NRSC to learn a little bit about the man who reinvented audio
> >> > > >> processing.
>
> >> > > >Yep, that where you got stuck somehow.
>
> >> > > >Reality = Take some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously
>
> >> > > >Oops! It's not quite what you wanted. Try again.
>
> >> > > >Reality = Makeup some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously
>
> >> > > >Looking good.
>
> >> > > This study, which was done under auspices of the NRSC (of which I am only one
> >> > > member) was done very carefully. Seehttp://www.nrscstandards.org/andclick
> >> > > "AM Bandwidth Study."
>
> >> > > >Telamon
> >> > > >Ventura, California
>
> >> > > By the way, "Telemon," to whom am I actually speaking? If you are implying
> >> > > that the above referenced study was corrupt, I would hope that you would at
> >> > > least back up your accusation by letting us know your real name and what
> >> > > evidence you have that the study was flawed.
>
> >> > The only suggestion I have for you Mr. Orban is to work on your reading
> >> > comprehension. The handle is Telamon.
>
> >> > --
> >> > Telamon
> >> > Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> >> Now be nice Telamon,
>
> >> Mister Orban has posted under his own name
> >> and has asked you to reply to him : in kind.
>
> >> FWIW - Robert {Bob} Orban
> >> * A Short History of Transmission Audio Processing in the United
> >> States
> >> -by- Robert Orban, San Francisco, CAhttp://www.bext.com/histproc.htmhttp://www.261.gr/roberthistory.html
> >> * Optimod "Ask Bob" - Orban/CRL Systems, Inc.http://www.orban.com/support/orban/askbob/http://www.261.gr/robert.html
> >> * Orban Audio Codec - "Opticodec Line"http://www.orban.com/products/codec/
>
> >> it's nice to be nice ! RHF
> >> .- Hide quoted text -
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> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > The fact is, it's pretty well impossible to know when someone is
> > posting under "their own name" on the internet. The only thing you can
> > really conclude is that someone is posting under a name which they
> > intend for you to believe is their own!
>
> There's an ancient device known as a telephone that can easily be used
> to solve that problem.
> --
> % Randy Yates % "And all that I can do
> %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % is say I'm sorry,
> %%% 919-577-9882 % that's the way it goes..."
> %%%% <ya...@ieee.org> % Getting To The Point', *Balance of Power*, ELOhttp://www.digitalsignallabs.com- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Well, why don't you make some calls and then report back.
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