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In article <1191687166.572267.86900@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
 Steve <sdaniel13@speakeasy.net> wrote:

> On Oct 6, 11:48 am, "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> > "Steve" <sdanie...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1191672837.606030.93790@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > > On Oct 5, 3:54 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > >> On Oct 4, 10:45 pm, Telamon
> >
> > >> <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> > >> > In article <KJudnZ1Y2vgpFJjanZ2dnUVZ_vvin...@giganews.com>,
> > >> >  Robert Orban <donotre...@spamblock.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> > > In article <telamon_spamshield-
> > >> > > FE4A4A.19085230092...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>,
> > >> > > telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid says...
> >
> > >> > > >In article <7HXLi.1757$hI7....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>,
> > >> > > > "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> > > >> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> > >> > > >> message
> > >> > > >> news:telamon_spamshield-
> > >> > > ACA06D.17572930092...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> >
> > >> > > >> >> That's funny, I just asked Bob if he 'found' this and he said
> > >> > > >> >> no way,
> > >> > > >> >> that you're basically just making shit up off the top of your
> > >> > > >> >> head.
> >
> > >> > > >> > Bob didn't test all the different model radios.
> >
> > >> > > >> He tested enough for a reliable sample of what Americans use. I'm
> > >> > > >> guessing
> > >> > > >> you don't know who Bob Orban is, so you might google him and the
> > >> > > >> term
> > >> > > >> Optimod or NRSC to learn a little bit about the man who 
> > >> > > >> reinvented
> > >> > > >> audio
> > >> > > >> processing.
> >
> > >> > > >Yep, that where you got stuck somehow.
> >
> > >> > > >Reality = Take some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously
> >
> > >> > > >Oops! It's not quite what you wanted. Try again.
> >
> > >> > > >Reality = Makeup some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously
> >
> > >> > > >Looking good.
> >
> > >> > > This study, which was done under auspices of the NRSC (of which I am
> > >> > > only one
> > >> > > member) was done very carefully.
> > >> > > Seehttp://www.nrscstandards.org/andclick
> > >> > > "AM Bandwidth Study."
> >
> > >> > > >Telamon
> > >> > > >Ventura, California
> >
> > >> > > By the way, "Telemon," to whom am I actually speaking? If you are
> > >> > > implying
> > >> > > that the above referenced study was corrupt, I would hope that you
> > >> > > would at
> > >> > > least back up your accusation by letting us know your real name and
> > >> > > what
> > >> > > evidence you have that the study was flawed.
> >
> > >> > The only suggestion I have for you Mr. Orban is to work on your 
> > >> > reading
> > >> > comprehension. The handle is Telamon.
> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Telamon
> > >> > Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -
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> >
> > >> Now be nice Telamon,
> >
> > >> Mister Orban has posted under his own name
> > >> and has asked you to reply to him : in kind.
> >
> > >> FWIW - Robert {Bob} Orban
> > >> * A Short History of Transmission Audio Processing in the United
> > >> States
> > >> -by- Robert Orban, San Francisco,
> > >> CAhttp://www.bext.com/histproc.htmhttp://www.261.gr/roberthistory.html
> > >> * Optimod "Ask Bob" - Orban/CRL Systems,
> > >> Inc.http://www.orban.com/support/orban/askbob/http://www.261.gr/robert.ht
> > >> ml
> > >> * Orban Audio Codec - "Opticodec
> > >> Line"http://www.orban.com/products/codec/
> >
> > >> it's nice to be nice ! RHF
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> > > The fact is, it's pretty well impossible to know when someone is
> > > posting under "their own name" on the internet. The only thing you can
> > > really conclude is that someone is posting under a name which they
> > > intend for you to believe is their own!
> >
> > When it comes to content, nobody can duplicate one of Bob Orban's posts.- 
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> And do you have any evidence to back up this assertion?

I'm sure he can recite a number of Arbitron statistics to prove that 
assertion.

See the problem with Eduardo is that all arguments begin and end with 
Arbitron since he supposedly has access to that data and we don't so he 
can't loose.

Well I just re-ran the Usenet reader stats and Eduardo came out on the 
bottom of believability contour of all posters. The number of people 
that believe him is below 10% in the 25 to 54 age group or in other 
words his bombast signal level is not high enough for most to put up 
with. People will just tune out in favor of a more rational poster on 
Usenet.

-- 
Telamon
Ventura, California