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Article #723Re: YES Virginia, 24 kbit/s can sound good (with HE-AAC codec)
From: SFTVratings_troy
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:58
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:58
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jhardis wrote: > On Sep 30, 5:11 pm, SFTV_troy <SFTV_t...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > HE-ACC + SBR is the codec used in Hybrid Digital Radio, Digital Radio > > Mondiale, and DAB+. > > 1) The ACC is an athletic conference within the NCAA. You mean AAC. The "AAC girls" was Playboy's best issue. ;-) > 2) There is no such thing as "Hybrid Digital" radio. HD Radio is > a trademark of iBiquity Digital Corp for their IBOC implementation, > and the "HD" doesn't mean anything in particular. False. Go look it up on wikipedia, and you will see a link to an email from the HD Alliance. That email confirms that HD means Hybrid Digital. > 3) "HD Radio" uses a codec known as HDC (a.k.a. "HD Codec"). While > iBiquity has acknowledged that it uses SBR, they have pointedly > declined to discuss whether or not it has any other similarity to HE- > AAC. I doubt that you could cite an authoritative source, but if you > could I would love to know about it. (1) Wikipedia states it is AAC. (2) Even if wiki is wrong, you find that SBR codecs are the most- advanced. Take MP3pro for example, which is essentially MP3 + SBR. It routinely ties with AAC+SBR in listening tests. (3) iBiquity has already stated it is "based on MPEG4", the most- advanced standard currently available for audio compression. So to summarize: We know definitely that it's MPEG4 with SBR. We know wikipedia states it is based upon AAC. It's safe to make an educated guess that HDC == MPEG4 AAC+SBR, or a derivation thereof.
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