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Article #889Re: HD RADIO is no worse than DAB or DRM radio
From: Steven
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:16
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:16
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On Sep 30, 12:08 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote: > On Sep 29, 2:02 pm, Tom <holden_fam...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sep 29, 4:22 pm, nos...@nospam.com (Don Pearce) wrote: > > > > On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:09:45 -0700, SFTV_troy <SFTV_t...@yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > >Frankly I'm a bit surprised at the reaction. There's currently a > > > >transition from analog to digital broadcasting (both in American and > > > >the European Union), and there will be some growing pains, but it's > > > >only temporary. In the LONG TERM, the digital radio will provide > > > >better sound than the current analog (like upgrading FM Stereo to 300 > > > >kbps Surround). > > > > What is the reason for your optimism? Every other advance in radio has > > > been better by design, and demonstrated its improvement from day 1. > > > Digital radio hasn't done that - it has been poor from day one, and to > > > be better than its predecessor it will need to get a whole heap better > > > then it is now. > > > > What do you believe will be the basis of that improvement? > > > > d > > > > -- > > > Pearce Consultinghttp://www.pearce.uk.com > > > HDradio is worse than DAB insofar as the so-called IBOC implementation > > guarantees interference to both the analog main channel and to > > adjacent channel stations. DAB has been implemented on exclusive > > spectrum, or, at least, spectrum that is not already used for consumer > > applications. As to the quality, yes, a DAB multiplex can be exploited > > to provide 1990's pioneer streaming audio quality for many program > > streams channels or a few streams at 1980's near-CD quality. HDradio > > benefits from a decade of codec and silicon development needed for it > > to have marginally acceptable quality in a much more restrictive > > bandwidth. So, too, does DRM benefit from said development, making it > > possible to provide a digital carrier within LW,MW and SW channeling > > plans. Thast said, I find it much less fatiguing to listen to a > > program on an analog AM carrier than to the same program over DRM. > > > Adverse reaction to HDradio is stronger than what it probably was to > > DAB because of the perceived negative effects on analog reception and > > the lack of new program offerings. DAB takeup has succeeded as well as > > it has in the UK because of new program services, not because of audio > > quality, and because of a concerted government, broadcaster and > > manufacturing industry push, the likes of which we have not seen in > > other countries. A stronger parallel can be drawn to the sizable > > takeup of XMRadio and Sirius satellite services in the US and Canada - > > the quality stinks but the program choice and wide ranging coverage > > are unique. > > > DRM is still an open question - my dabbling with it persuaded me that > > it is not really viable where sky-wave propagation is involved, either > > as the main path or as an interferer to the desired ground-wave path. > > That said, it should do as well or better than HDradio for LW, MW, > > 26MHz, and VHF but is as disruptive to existing analog stations. > > > I've been more impressed by synchronous AM demodulation of AM signals > > than by a digital equivalent. It's a pity we could not get mass > > manufacturing of synch AM radios and ultimately convert all AM > > stations to USB with reduced carrier for power savings and reduced > > interference. > > > Tom- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Tom - Good Response ~ RHF > .- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Yeah, I can agree with a lot of it. Critique without a bunch of URLs also, which is astonishing when you realize that all came from HIM and not a website. Much obliged!
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