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Article #5353Re: polarity inversion
From: Kerry Shetline
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 02:43
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 02:43
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In article <1hvai7INNt2c@transfer.stratus.com>, rsud@sw.stratus.com (Rajiv Sud) wrote: > > In article <shetline-311292015736@128.89.19.85>, shetline@bbn.com (Kerry Shetline) writes: > > > > Sound waves in air consist of radiating patterns of compression and > . > . <lots of crap deleted> > . > > Kerry, > Absolute phase does matter and is easy to hear. You and other > non-belivers might try it for yourself on something better than a mass > market system. Better than mass market is the key (but spare me the > arguements about not being able to afford $2000 components. If mass > consumers weren't so complacent and demanded better they'd get it). Given that flaws in component design are the likeliest source of differences in sound caused by absolute phase, the more expensive stuff should reveal polarity inversion to a lesser degree. As for the price of the equipment, there seems to be a fairly good correlation between money spent and the ability to convince oneself of one's incredible capacity to discern subtle effects that the poorer rabble can't hear. This is the kind of psychology that high-end audio dealers depend upon. Not only can people purchase their own golden ears by spending $3000 each on a pair of mono tube amps, but they wouldn't dare sully the illusion by imagining that a few dollars worth of 18-gauge wire from Radio Shack could conduct the magic flow of music to their mortgage-busting speakers nearly as well as $300 pieces of copper snake-oil. If you don't believe in your mind's ability to affect the way things sound, consider this experience common to nearly all of us: You hear a song, but you can't make out the lyrics. Later, you finally figure them out, somebody else tells you, or you read the lyrics. From then on, when you hear the song the words sound like they are supposed to sound. I don't mean that the words are simply more intelligible -- THEY SOUND DIFFERENT. The effect is entirely in the brain's processing, not in the signal. The reason for this comes from the nature of the task that the ear and brain must perform to parse sound and music. The ear receives a jumble of frequency components from separate sources simultaneously, and the brain must discern which components are related and identify the source. To exaggerate the dillema, suppose I gave you the number 42, and said that it was obtained as the sum of a set of numbers, and asked you to guess the set. There is no way for you to reasonably approach the problem without some expectations as to the number of items in the set, and without good guesses for most of those items. As I said, this is an exaggeration, but the analogy holds. Hearing requires active application of expectation to processing, probably more than any other sense. This is why it is quite possible for some people to REALLY HEAR differences in sounds that are created, quite literally, inside their heads -- all the more reason why people should demand, of themselves as well as others, objective testing. Note that I don't say explanations. It is possible for a thing to be without complete explanation (e.g. the exact effect of aspirin on body chemistry and the neural system) but objectively testable (clinical trials with control groups). Usually, however, there should at least be hints as to the mechanism for a phenomemon, and certainly one should always beware of devices and dubious procedures that must always creep out of the light of explanation to hide in the camouflage of the unknown. -Kerry
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!noc.near.net!news.bbn.com!NewsWatcher!user From: shetline@bbn.com (Kerry Shetline) Newsgroups: rec.audio Subject: Re: polarity inversion Followup-To: rec.audio Date: 1 Jan 1993 02:43:17 GMT Organization: BBN Lines: 65 Distribution: world Message-ID: <shetline-311292171523@128.89.19.85> References: <92364.114116U37426@uicvm.uic.edu> <1992Dec29.210759.17315@e2big.mko.dec.com> <shetline-311292015736@128.89.19.85> <1hvai7INNt2c@transfer.stratus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com