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Article #5403Re: polarity inversion
From: Dave Jensen
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 06:44
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 06:44
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In article <1992Dec31.235858.22059@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes: >In article <1hvai7INNt2c@transfer.stratus.com> rsud@sw.stratus.com (Rajiv Sud) writes: > >> Absolute phase does matter and is easy to hear. You and other >>non-belivers might try it for yourself on something better than a mass >>market system. Better than mass market is the key (but spare me the >>arguements about not being able to afford $2000 components. If mass >>consumers weren't so complacent and demanded better they'd get it). > >Can you perhaps suggest a few recordings on which absolute phase is easy >to hear? I have several stereos, ranging from a Rotel 955 driving a >Musical Fidelity A-1 20WPC pure class A integrated amp with a pair of >Chartwell LS3/5a speakers to one that includes the latest revision models >of EAD transport & processor, Threshold amp, and Apogee Stage speakers >(this week, anyway) and several others, including ones where I have designed >the speakers and some of the electronics. I can hear the difference when >moving a tweeter forward or backwards an inch or two when making >an enclosure, the (frequently dramatic) difference between two high-end >amplifiers, the effects of changing speaker or listener position by an inch >or so, and the differences between different op-amps, but I've never been >able to detect absolute phase, even on the Stereophile test disks that are >specifically designed for testing this ability. > >Trygve > The audibility of absolute polarity (which, by the way, is not a function of time, as is phase) will be most noticeable with a high-transient, low-frequency signal (below 60 Hz). The impact of a prominent, well recorded kick drum will be weaker if the speaker polarity is opposite that of the assumed correct recording polarity where a positive pressure produced a positive voltage at the microphone. A very simple test to satisfy your curiosity would be to listen to the difference in woofer sound quality as you apply a battery across the terminals of your speaker cabinet. I believe you'll find the compression wave produced by a positive voltage on the positive terminal (pushing the speaker outward) will yield the more satisfying thump.
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Newsgroups: rec.audio Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pmafire!mica.inel.gov!guinness!usenet From: Dave Jensen <djensen@claven.idbsu.edu> Subject: Re: polarity inversion Message-ID: <1993Jan3.064402.19553@guinness.idbsu.edu> Sender: usenet@guinness.idbsu.edu (Usenet News mail) Nntp-Posting-Host: boise1.idbsu.edu Organization: Morrison Center for the Performing Arts References: <1992Dec29.210759.17315@e2big.mko.dec.com> <shetline-311292015736@128.89.19.85> <1hvai7INNt2c@transfer.stratus.com> <1992Dec31.235858.22059@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 06:44:02 GMT Lines: 41