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"Kayak 44" <kayak4444@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Reposting from MTBR...
>
> "30 days, to be served on the sheriff's work detail (picking up
> trash). No actual prison to be served, if the Sheriff takes him. The
> program costs some money, too. He also gets credit for having been in
> custody for 7 days. Judge said picking up trash was a good plan for a
> passionate environmentalist like MV.
>
> Has to stay off the UC trails for 3 years.
>
> DA asked for 270 days.
>
> Judge said that since MV didn't have a record and no one was really
> hurt, lighter sentence was appropriate.
>
> Apparently, MV sent a letter to the judge, which the judge returned,
> unopened to his defense counsel this morning. Defendants aren't
> supposed to send letters about sentencing to the judge without their
> counsel's approval, but MV did anyway." 

"Kayak 44" <kayak4444@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:e309f93b-2bf3-45c9-a320-490ee3d29de9@p16g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> Reposting from MTBR...
>
> "30 days, to be served on the sheriff's work detail (picking up
> trash). No actual prison to be served, if the Sheriff takes him. The
> program costs some money, too. He also gets credit for having been in
> custody for 7 days. Judge said picking up trash was a good plan for a
> passionate environmentalist like MV.

Hell Bells, those of us who respect the environment are always picking up 
other's trash anyway.

> Has to stay off the UC trails for 3 years.

UC is as fucked-up as the whole state of California.

> DA asked for 270 days.
>
> Judge said that since MV didn't have a record and no one was really
> hurt, lighter sentence was appropriate.

The mountain bikers are the ones who should have been on trial. An 
appropriate sentence for THEM would have been a good horsewhipping.

> Apparently, MV sent a letter to the judge, which the judge returned,
> unopened to his defense counsel this morning. Defendants aren't
> supposed to send letters about sentencing to the judge without their
> counsel's approval, but MV did anyway."

No one understands the intricacies of legal procedures, not even lawyers. 
What else is new?

-- 
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

On 4/11/2011 5:53 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
> Reposting from MTBR...
>
> "30 days, to be served on the sheriff's work detail (picking up
> trash). No actual prison to be served, if the Sheriff takes him. The
> program costs some money, too. He also gets credit for having been in
> custody for 7 days. Judge said picking up trash was a good plan for a
> passionate environmentalist like MV.

I've been picking up trash on trails for years. Do I get credit for that 
somehow? I would not call MV a passionate environmentalist. What he does 
hurts the environment far more than it helps it. A misguided, wannabe 
environmentalist, would be more accurate.

> Has to stay off the UC trails for 3 years.

A 3 year trail ban is rather short. Of course UC can ban anyone they 
want from their trails for as long as they want, should they so choose.

> DA asked for 270 days.
>
> Judge said that since MV didn't have a record and no one was really
> hurt, lighter sentence was appropriate.

Yeah, that's not an unfair sentence, given the cost to the state of 
keeping someone in custody.

On Apr 12, 9:17 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 4/11/2011 5:53 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
>
> > Reposting from MTBR...
>
> > "30 days, to be served on the sheriff's work detail (picking up
> > trash). No actual prison to be served, if the Sheriff takes him. The
> > program costs some money, too. He also gets credit for having been in
> > custody for 7 days. Judge said picking up trash was a good plan for a
> > passionate environmentalist like MV.
>
> I've been picking up trash on trails for years. Do I get credit for that
> somehow? I would not call MV a passionate environmentalist. What he does
> hurts the environment far more than it helps it. A misguided, wannabe
> environmentalist, would be more accurate.
>
> > Has to stay off the UC trails for 3 years.
>
> A 3 year trail ban is rather short. Of course UC can ban anyone they
> want from their trails for as long as they want, should they so choose.
>
> > DA asked for 270 days.
>
> > Judge said that since MV didn't have a record and no one was really
> > hurt, lighter sentence was appropriate.
>
> Yeah, that's not an unfair sentence, given the cost to the state of
> keeping someone in custody.

Mikey also has to pay for the program...

Sheriff's Work Alternative Program (S.W.A.P.)


It is the intent of Sheriff Gregory J. Ahern to maintain the highest
standards of public confidence, credibility and public safety when
implementing alternatives to confinement programs. Participation in
the programs shall occur only when the Sheriff concludes that a person
meets the specified criteria.

The Sheriff’s Work Alternative Program is an alternative to
confinement where participants perform eight to ten hours of work in-
lieu of one day of confinement in jail. The programs intent is to
provide the qualified, low risk offenders an alternative to paying
large fines or incarceration. The sentence may not be over 30 days.

Participants are assigned to work at one of thirty contracted public
agency work sites within Alameda County.

APPLICATION PROCESS:

You must be referred to the program by the sentencing court.

A non-refundable $65.00 administrative fee is required and an
additional $12.00 for each day assigned is calculated at the time of
your first appearance and is paid in full at the time of your second
appearance.

"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message 
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> On 4/11/2011 5:53 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
>> Reposting from MTBR...
>>
>> "30 days, to be served on the sheriff's work detail (picking up
>> trash). No actual prison to be served, if the Sheriff takes him. The
>> program costs some money, too. He also gets credit for having been in
>> custody for 7 days. Judge said picking up trash was a good plan for a
>> passionate environmentalist like MV.
>
> I've been picking up trash on trails for years. Do I get credit for that 
> somehow? I would not call MV a passionate environmentalist. What he does 
> hurts the environment far more than it helps it. A misguided, wannabe 
> environmentalist, would be more accurate.

A mountain biker and an environmentalist are mutually exclusive and an 
oxymoron besides. It is only we hikers who have any respect for mother 
nature. The rest of you are all slobs!

-- 
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

On 4/11/2011 7:53 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
> Reposting from MTBR...
>
> "30 days, to be served on the sheriff's work detail (picking up
> trash). No actual prison to be served, if the Sheriff takes him. The
> program costs some money, too. He also gets credit for having been in
> custody for 7 days. Judge said picking up trash was a good plan for a
> passionate environmentalist like MV.
>
> Has to stay off the UC trails for 3 years.
>
> DA asked for 270 days.
>
> Judge said that since MV didn't have a record and no one was really
> hurt, lighter sentence was appropriate.
>
> Apparently, MV sent a letter to the judge, which the judge returned,
> unopened to his defense counsel this morning. Defendants aren't
> supposed to send letters about sentencing to the judge without their
> counsel's approval, but MV did anyway."

Is Mikey V prohibited from trolling Usenet while on probation?

His sentence is relatively light: 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Despenser_the_Younger#Trial_and_execution>.

-- 
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

"T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote in 
message news:io3j0r$2lu$1@dont-email.me...
> On 4/11/2011 7:53 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
[...]
> Is Mikey V prohibited from trolling Usenet while on probation?

I have advised Mr. Vandeman not to waste his time arguing with idiots on 
Usenet. That kind of thing is reserved for the likes of you and me. After 
all, we are idiots to the manor born.

-- 
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Kayak 44" <kayak4444@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:e309f93b-2bf3-45c9-a320-490ee3d29de9@p16g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> Reposting from MTBR...
>
> "30 days, to be served on the sheriff's work detail (picking up
> trash). No actual prison to be served, if the Sheriff takes him. The
> program costs some money, too. He also gets credit for having been in
> custody for 7 days. Judge said picking up trash was a good plan for a
> passionate environmentalist like MV.
>
> Has to stay off the UC trails for 3 years.
>
> DA asked for 270 days.
>
> Judge said that since MV didn't have a record and no one was really
> hurt, lighter sentence was appropriate.
>
> Apparently, MV sent a letter to the judge, which the judge returned,
> unopened to his defense counsel this morning. Defendants aren't
> supposed to send letters about sentencing to the judge without their
> counsel's approval, but MV did anyway."
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Perhaps we can have him back on r.b soon? 

"Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message 
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> "Kayak 44" <kayak4444@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:e309f93b-2bf3-45c9-a320-490ee3d29de9@p16g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
>> Reposting from MTBR...
>>
>> "30 days, to be served on the sheriff's work detail (picking up
>> trash). No actual prison to be served, if the Sheriff takes him. The
>> program costs some money, too. He also gets credit for having been in
>> custody for 7 days. Judge said picking up trash was a good plan for a
>> passionate environmentalist like MV.
>>
>> Has to stay off the UC trails for 3 years.
>>
>> DA asked for 270 days.
>>
>> Judge said that since MV didn't have a record and no one was really
>> hurt, lighter sentence was appropriate.
>>
>> Apparently, MV sent a letter to the judge, which the judge returned,
>> unopened to his defense counsel this morning. Defendants aren't
>> supposed to send letters about sentencing to the judge without their
>> counsel's approval, but MV did anyway."
> -
> Perhaps we can have him back on r.b soon?

Mr. Vandeman is too much of a gentleman for Usenet. I am better suited for 
these forums since I don't care a fig about being a gentleman. Unlike Mr. 
Vandeman, Ed Dolan the Great knows how to get as low down and dirty as the 
next scoundrel. Just ask Tom Sherman.

-- 
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

On Apr 13, 4:34 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Wayne" <mygarbage...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> > "Kayak 44" <kayak4...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:e309f93b-2bf3-45c9-a320-490ee3d29de9@p16g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> >> Reposting from MTBR...
>
> >> "30 days, to be served on the sheriff's work detail (picking up
> >> trash). No actual prison to be served, if the Sheriff takes him. The
> >> program costs some money, too. He also gets credit for having been in
> >> custody for 7 days. Judge said picking up trash was a good plan for a
> >> passionate environmentalist like MV.
>
> >> Has to stay off the UC trails for 3 years.
>
> >> DA asked for 270 days.
>
> >> Judge said that since MV didn't have a record and no one was really
> >> hurt, lighter sentence was appropriate.
>
> >> Apparently, MV sent a letter to the judge, which the judge returned,
> >> unopened to his defense counsel this morning. Defendants aren't
> >> supposed to send letters about sentencing to the judge without their
> >> counsel's approval, but MV did anyway."
> > -
> > Perhaps we can have him back on r.b soon?
>
> Mr. Vandeman is too much of a gentleman for Usenet. I am better suited for
> these forums since I don't care a fig about being a gentleman. Unlike Mr.
> Vandeman, Ed Dolan the Great knows how to get as low down and dirty as the
> next scoundrel. Just ask Tom Sherman.
>
> --
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You're a tard :-D

"Bruce Jensen" <bpnjensen@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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On Apr 13, 4:34 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> Mr. Vandeman is too much of a gentleman for Usenet. I am better suited for
> these forums since I don't care a fig about being a gentleman. Unlike Mr.
> Vandeman, Ed Dolan the Great knows how to get as low down and dirty as the
> next scoundrel. Just ask Tom Sherman.

>> You're a tard :-D

Fuck you too Asshole!

-- 
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota 

Kayak 44 relates:
> "... Apparently, MV sent a letter to the judge, which the
> judge returned, unopened to his defense counsel this morning.
> Defendants aren't supposed to send letters about sentencing to
> the judge without their counsel's approval, but MV did anyway."

=v= I can't help but imagine that it was a printout of a Usenet
post from the 1990s, reproducing a letter sent to the East Bay
Regional Parks District in 1988. :^)
    <_Jym_>

On Apr 14, 8:20 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Bruce Jensen" <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a5d1ed46-2275-4336-a5f2-0ea81dc10f73@x37g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 13, 4:34 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Mr. Vandeman is too much of a gentleman for Usenet. I am better suited for
> > these forums since I don't care a fig about being a gentleman. Unlike Mr.
> > Vandeman, Ed Dolan the Great knows how to get as low down and dirty as the
> > next scoundrel. Just ask Tom Sherman.
> >> You're a tard :-D
>
> Fuck you too Asshole!
>
> --
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

LOL!