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Slight correction Lloyd... 5 people lost their lives.

Dann

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

>Well, I guess the "protected waters" of Georgia Strait aren't so
>protected after all...
>
>   A 55ft fishing boat, with experienced captain, overturned off
>Sandheads, killing 3 people. Nobody seems to be sure why the boat
>overturned (apparently a sailboat saw it go over and called a Mayday),
>but the Westerlies have been strong lately, and the Fraser River meets
>the swells at Sandheads making for some pretty knarly waves.
>
>Lloyd
>

"Dann Porter" <dannp@usa.net> wrote in message
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> Slight correction Lloyd... 5 people lost their lives.
>
> Dann
>
> Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
>
> >Well, I guess the "protected waters" of Georgia Strait aren't so
> >protected after all...
> >
> >   A 55ft fishing boat, with experienced captain, overturned off
> >Sandheads, killing 3 people. Nobody seems to be sure why the boat
> >overturned (apparently a sailboat saw it go over and called a Mayday),
> >but the Westerlies have been strong lately, and the Fraser River meets
> >the swells at Sandheads making for some pretty knarly waves.
> >
> >Lloyd
> >
>
I was in the same area (Sandheads) on Saturday in my 24' Searay.  We crossed
from Active Pass in rough, but makeable conditions to go to the Tall Ships
at Steveston and then to the fireworks in English Bay.  As we approached
Sandheads the sea turned ugly  (the worst water I have been in) and we gave
up and turned up to English Bay.  I think the wave height must have been in
the 10' range - it was NOT comfortable.  We were going to return home on
Sunday but conditions in the Strait were so bad we left the boat in
Vancouver and took the ferry home.  The boat is still in Vancouver until the
Strait clams down and I can go get the boat.
The conditions off Steveston were truly awful, and they came at us very
fast.  All this during a spell of warm sunny weather on the lower mainland
and Vacouver Island!

Larry

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I've crossed the Strait in 10 to 12 foot swells and had a blast, but 
then, crossing in a bluewater-built sailboat is much different than in a 
shallow draft power boat. It was hard work on the wheel, but at no time 
did we feel uncomfortable or in any danger.

The fishing community is a small, close-knit one, and I think this 
tragedy has hit them very hard. I don't recall the last accident of 
these proportions.

Dann

Larry Kier wrote:

>"Dann Porter" <dannp@usa.net> wrote in message
>news:3D5AB511.1050806@usa.net...
>
>>Slight correction Lloyd... 5 people lost their lives.
>>
>>Dann
>>
>>Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
>>
>>>Well, I guess the "protected waters" of Georgia Strait aren't so
>>>protected after all...
>>>
>>>  A 55ft fishing boat, with experienced captain, overturned off
>>>Sandheads, killing 3 people. Nobody seems to be sure why the boat
>>>overturned (apparently a sailboat saw it go over and called a Mayday),
>>>but the Westerlies have been strong lately, and the Fraser River meets
>>>the swells at Sandheads making for some pretty knarly waves.
>>>
>>>Lloyd
>>>
>I was in the same area (Sandheads) on Saturday in my 24' Searay.  We crossed
>from Active Pass in rough, but makeable conditions to go to the Tall Ships
>at Steveston and then to the fireworks in English Bay.  As we approached
>Sandheads the sea turned ugly  (the worst water I have been in) and we gave
>up and turned up to English Bay.  I think the wave height must have been in
>the 10' range - it was NOT comfortable.  We were going to return home on
>Sunday but conditions in the Strait were so bad we left the boat in
>Vancouver and took the ferry home.  The boat is still in Vancouver until the
>Strait clams down and I can go get the boat.
>The conditions off Steveston were truly awful, and they came at us very
>fast.  All this during a spell of warm sunny weather on the lower mainland
>and Vacouver Island!
>
>Larry
>
>
>


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I've crossed the Strait in 10 to 12 foot swells and had a blast, but then,
crossing in a bluewater-built sailboat is much different than in a shallow
draft power boat. It was hard work on the wheel, but at no time did we feel
uncomfortable or in any danger.<br>
<br>
The fishing community is a small, close-knit one, and I think this tragedy
has hit them very hard. I don't recall the last accident of these proportions.<br>
<br>
Dann<br>
<br>
Larry Kier wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:DCC69.147167$Ag2.7639200@news2.calgary.shaw.ca">
  <pre wrap="">"Dann Porter" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dannp@usa.net">&lt;dannp@usa.net&gt;</a> wrote in message<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:3D5AB511.1050806@usa.net">news:3D5AB511.1050806@usa.net</a>...<br></pre>
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    <pre wrap="">Slight correction Lloyd... 5 people lost their lives.<br><br>Dann<br><br>Lloyd Sumpter wrote:<br><br></pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">Well, I guess the "protected waters" of Georgia Strait aren't so<br>protected after all...<br><br>  A 55ft fishing boat, with experienced captain, overturned off<br>Sandheads, killing 3 people. Nobody seems to be sure why the boat<br>overturned (apparently a sailboat saw it go over and called a Mayday),<br>but the Westerlies have been strong lately, and the Fraser River meets<br>the swells at Sandheads making for some pretty knarly waves.<br><br>Lloyd<br><br></pre>
      </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap=""><!---->I was in the same area (Sandheads) on Saturday in my 24' Searay.  We crossed<br>from Active Pass in rough, but makeable conditions to go to the Tall Ships<br>at Steveston and then to the fireworks in English Bay.  As we approached<br>Sandheads the sea turned ugly  (the worst water I have been in) and we gave<br>up and turned up to English Bay.  I think the wave height must have been in<br>the 10' range - it was NOT comfortable.  We were going to return home on<br>Sunday but conditions in the Strait were so bad we left the boat in<br>Vancouver and took the ferry home.  The boat is still in Vancouver until the<br>Strait clams down and I can go get the boat.<br>The conditions off Steveston were truly awful, and they came at us very<br>fast.  All this during a spell of warm sunny weather on the lower mainland<br>and Vacouver Island!<br><br>Larry<br><br><br><br></pre>
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Big, big difference between 12 foot swells and short, steep, breaking
12 footers. 

=========================================================== 

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 00:54:06 GMT, Dann Porter <dannp@usa.net> wrote:

>
>I've crossed the Strait in 10 to 12 foot swells and had a blast, but 
>then, crossing in a bluewater-built sailboat is much different than in a 
>shallow draft power boat. It was hard work on the wheel, but at no time 
>did we feel uncomfortable or in any danger.
>
>The fishing community is a small, close-knit one, and I think this 
>tragedy has hit them very hard. I don't recall the last accident of 
>these proportions.
>
>Dann
>
>Larry Kier wrote:
>
>>"Dann Porter" <dannp@usa.net> wrote in message
>>news:3D5AB511.1050806@usa.net...
>>
>>>Slight correction Lloyd... 5 people lost their lives.
>>>
>>>Dann
>>>
>>>Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well, I guess the "protected waters" of Georgia Strait aren't so
>>>>protected after all...
>>>>
>>>>  A 55ft fishing boat, with experienced captain, overturned off
>>>>Sandheads, killing 3 people. Nobody seems to be sure why the boat
>>>>overturned (apparently a sailboat saw it go over and called a Mayday),
>>>>but the Westerlies have been strong lately, and the Fraser River meets
>>>>the swells at Sandheads making for some pretty knarly waves.
>>>>
>>>>Lloyd
>>>>
>>I was in the same area (Sandheads) on Saturday in my 24' Searay.  We crossed
>>from Active Pass in rough, but makeable conditions to go to the Tall Ships
>>at Steveston and then to the fireworks in English Bay.  As we approached
>>Sandheads the sea turned ugly  (the worst water I have been in) and we gave
>>up and turned up to English Bay.  I think the wave height must have been in
>>the 10' range - it was NOT comfortable.  We were going to return home on
>>Sunday but conditions in the Strait were so bad we left the boat in
>>Vancouver and took the ferry home.  The boat is still in Vancouver until the
>>Strait clams down and I can go get the boat.
>>The conditions off Steveston were truly awful, and they came at us very
>>fast.  All this during a spell of warm sunny weather on the lower mainland
>>and Vacouver Island!
>>
>>Larry
>>
>>
>>

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I've seen and experienced both and know the difference very well. 
Agreed. Much, much different.

Dann

Wayne B wrote:

>Big, big difference between 12 foot swells and short, steep, breaking
>12 footers. 
>
>=========================================================== 
>
>On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 00:54:06 GMT, Dann Porter <dannp@usa.net> wrote:
>
>>I've crossed the Strait in 10 to 12 foot swells and had a blast, but 
>>then, crossing in a bluewater-built sailboat is much different than in a 
>>shallow draft power boat. It was hard work on the wheel, but at no time 
>>did we feel uncomfortable or in any danger.
>>
>>The fishing community is a small, close-knit one, and I think this 
>>tragedy has hit them very hard. I don't recall the last accident of 
>>these proportions.
>>
>>Dann
>>
>>Larry Kier wrote:
>>
>>>"Dann Porter" <dannp@usa.net> wrote in message
>>>news:3D5AB511.1050806@usa.net...
>>>
>>>>Slight correction Lloyd... 5 people lost their lives.
>>>>
>>>>Dann
>>>>
>>>>Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Well, I guess the "protected waters" of Georgia Strait aren't so
>>>>>protected after all...
>>>>>
>>>>> A 55ft fishing boat, with experienced captain, overturned off
>>>>>Sandheads, killing 3 people. Nobody seems to be sure why the boat
>>>>>overturned (apparently a sailboat saw it go over and called a Mayday),
>>>>>but the Westerlies have been strong lately, and the Fraser River meets
>>>>>the swells at Sandheads making for some pretty knarly waves.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lloyd
>>>>>
>>>I was in the same area (Sandheads) on Saturday in my 24' Searay.  We crossed
>>>
>>>from Active Pass in rough, but makeable conditions to go to the Tall Ships
>>
>>>at Steveston and then to the fireworks in English Bay.  As we approached
>>>Sandheads the sea turned ugly  (the worst water I have been in) and we gave
>>>up and turned up to English Bay.  I think the wave height must have been in
>>>the 10' range - it was NOT comfortable.  We were going to return home on
>>>Sunday but conditions in the Strait were so bad we left the boat in
>>>Vancouver and took the ferry home.  The boat is still in Vancouver until the
>>>Strait clams down and I can go get the boat.
>>>The conditions off Steveston were truly awful, and they came at us very
>>>fast.  All this during a spell of warm sunny weather on the lower mainland
>>>and Vacouver Island!
>>>
>>>Larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
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I've seen and experienced both and know the difference very well. Agreed.
Much, much different.<br>
<br>
Dann<br>
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Wayne B wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:b25mlu4ejok843ejeb3a0vhdu073ll01tk@4ax.com">
  <pre wrap="">Big, big difference between 12 foot swells and short, steep, breaking<br>12 footers. <br><br>=========================================================== <br><br>On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 00:54:06 GMT, Dann Porter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dannp@usa.net">&lt;dannp@usa.net&gt;</a> wrote:<br><br></pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">I've crossed the Strait in 10 to 12 foot swells and had a blast, but <br>then, crossing in a bluewater-built sailboat is much different than in a <br>shallow draft power boat. It was hard work on the wheel, but at no time <br>did we feel uncomfortable or in any danger.<br><br>The fishing community is a small, close-knit one, and I think this <br>tragedy has hit them very hard. I don't recall the last accident of <br>these proportions.<br><br>Dann<br><br>Larry Kier wrote:<br><br></pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">"Dann Porter" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dannp@usa.net">&lt;dannp@usa.net&gt;</a> wrote in message<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:3D5AB511.1050806@usa.net">news:3D5AB511.1050806@usa.net</a>...<br><br></pre>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap="">Slight correction Lloyd... 5 people lost their lives.<br><br>Dann<br><br>Lloyd Sumpter wrote:<br><br></pre>
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <pre wrap="">Well, I guess the "protected waters" of Georgia Strait aren't so<br>protected after all...<br><br> A 55ft fishing boat, with experienced captain, overturned off<br>Sandheads, killing 3 people. Nobody seems to be sure why the boat<br>overturned (apparently a sailboat saw it go over and called a Mayday),<br>but the Westerlies have been strong lately, and the Fraser River meets<br>the swells at Sandheads making for some pretty knarly waves.<br><br>Lloyd<br><br></pre>
          </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
          <pre wrap="">I was in the same area (Sandheads) on Saturday in my 24' Searay.  We crossed<br></pre>
          </blockquote>
          <pre wrap="">&gt;from Active Pass in rough, but makeable conditions to go to the Tall Ships<br></pre>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <pre wrap="">at Steveston and then to the fireworks in English Bay.  As we approached<br>Sandheads the sea turned ugly  (the worst water I have been in) and we gave<br>up and turned up to English Bay.  I think the wave height must have been in<br>the 10' range - it was NOT comfortable.  We were going to return home on<br>Sunday but conditions in the Strait were so bad we left the boat in<br>Vancouver and took the ferry home.  The boat is still in Vancouver until the<br>Strait clams down and I can go get the boat.<br>The conditions off Steveston were truly awful, and they came at us very<br>fast.  All this during a spell of warm sunny weather on the lower mainland<br>and Vacouver Island!<br><br>Larry<br><br><br><br></pre>
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The overturned sailboat in Ladner Reach has been on the weather radio 
for about 3 weeks or more... still being broadcast because it is a 
hazard to navigation.

Karl Pollak wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>Dann Porter <dannp@usa.net> wrote:
>
>>Slight correction Lloyd... 5 people lost their lives.
>>
>
>There was an advisory on weather radio a day earlier about an overturned
>and sunk sailboat in Ladner Reach.  Nothing on the news about it though.  I
>guess there were not enough dead bodies in that one to make it newsworthy.
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The overturned sailboat in Ladner Reach has been on the weather radio for
about 3 weeks or more... still being broadcast because it is a hazard to
navigation.<br>
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Karl Pollak wrote:<br>
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  <pre wrap="">x-no-archive: yes<br>Dann Porter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dannp@usa.net">&lt;dannp@usa.net&gt;</a> wrote:<br><br></pre>
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    <pre wrap="">Slight correction Lloyd... 5 people lost their lives.<br></pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap=""><!----><br>There was an advisory on weather radio a day earlier about an overturned<br>and sunk sailboat in Ladner Reach.  Nothing on the news about it though.  I<br>guess there were not enough dead bodies in that one to make it newsworthy.<br><br></pre>
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