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5 total messages Started by Fred11 Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:09
Buying an older boat????
#4050
Author: Fred11
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:09
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I have the opportunity to buy an older boat that a buddy of mine has owned
for at least the last 15 years... I look at it and guess it might fall into
the late 70's because of the style including the puke green seats, etc..

It has a 80 horse Merc on it, and I think the boat is made by Sunray
(fiberglass)...

My questions are:

1.  If it hasn't been started for 4-5 years do you think the engine could
have seized? (stored outdoors only last 2 years)

2.  Is it expensive to repair the clear plastic windows of the cover?
(they've been destroyed by the sun and age)

3.  What is an older boat like this worth, how do I figure that out?

4.  Would a trolling motor (electric kind) work on something like this?

Cheers
Re: Buying an older boat????
#4055
Author: Ted Campanelli
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 02:02
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1.  IF the engine was fogged and winterized properly you should be OK.
Definitely change the lower unit oil.

2.  The clear plastic windows on the cover shouldn't be too bad.  An auto seat
trim or auto upholstery outfit can give you a price.

3.  Once you know the year, make, size and condition go to NADA.  They have a
section on older boats.

4.  A trolling motor MAY work.  A lot will depend on the size of the boat (to
determine pounds of thrust needed) and where you plan to mount it.

Make sure you check the transom for rot.



Fred11 wrote:

> I have the opportunity to buy an older boat that a buddy of mine has owned
> for at least the last 15 years... I look at it and guess it might fall into
> the late 70's because of the style including the puke green seats, etc..
>
> It has a 80 horse Merc on it, and I think the boat is made by Sunray
> (fiberglass)...
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1.  If it hasn't been started for 4-5 years do you think the engine could
> have seized? (stored outdoors only last 2 years)
>
> 2.  Is it expensive to repair the clear plastic windows of the cover?
> (they've been destroyed by the sun and age)
>
> 3.  What is an older boat like this worth, how do I figure that out?
>
> 4.  Would a trolling motor (electric kind) work on something like this?
>
> Cheers
Re: Buying an older boat????
#4056
Author: Bill Kiene
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 05:42
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Cheers,

Unless you have the need, time, money and room for an old used boat, don't
waste your time.

If you are mechanically inclined and are looking for a project, go for it. I
would not pay him anything for the boat so you could come out on it some
day.

1.) I would find a good Mercury outboard mechanic and take him the serial
number first. He should be able to evaluate the motor. Our best outboard
shop says it is getting hard to get parts for Mercury motors that are over
20 years old.

2.) Maybe you get a new cover?

3.) Nothing, less the cost of hauling it away.

4.) An electric trolling motor would be great. Get a 55# thrust 12 volt
minimum.

If the boat is all there and very clean it could be fun.


--
Bill Kiene
Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA
www.kiene.com

"Fred11" <fatbastard@canada.com> wrote in message
news:B7E19.1657$672.868594@news20.bellglobal.com...

> I have the opportunity to buy an older boat that a buddy of mine has owned
> for at least the last 15 years... I look at it and guess it might fall
into
> the late 70's because of the style including the puke green seats, etc..
>
> It has a 80 horse Merc on it, and I think the boat is made by Sunray
> (fiberglass)...
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1.  If it hasn't been started for 4-5 years do you think the engine could
> have seized? (stored outdoors only last 2 years)
>
> 2.  Is it expensive to repair the clear plastic windows of the cover?
> (they've been destroyed by the sun and age)
>
> 3.  What is an older boat like this worth, how do I figure that out?
>
> 4.  Would a trolling motor (electric kind) work on something like this?
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
Re: Buying an older boat????
#4059
Author: Douglas King
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:50
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Fred11 wrote:

> I have the opportunity to buy an older boat that a buddy of mine has owned
> for at least the last 15 years...

and you describe this guy as a "buddy?" Don't get out much, do you?

This boat has no value. The engine, if it runs without making a lot of
obnoxious noise & smoke, is worth something but not much. The trailer, if it
can be made roadable, is worth something too.

All of them together are marginally worth the cost of bringing it home, if you
need a project to work on in your spare time. Otherwise your buddy is going to
have to pay a landfill to accept it.

>
> My questions are:
>
> 1.  If it hasn't been started for 4-5 years do you think the engine could
> have seized? (stored outdoors only last 2 years)

Definitely. OTOH if it has received proper care, it might start up with some
futzing around.

>
>
> 2.  Is it expensive to repair the clear plastic windows of the cover?
> (they've been destroyed by the sun and age)

You should probably replace the cover... consider getting a tarp.

>
>
> 3.  What is an older boat like this worth, how do I figure that out?

Easy. What will it cost to put tires, bearings, & a license on the trailer, get
the engine running (parts + time), and cleaning materials to get the fug off it
from the half-destroyed cover? Subtract this from the price that anybody in his
right mind would pay for the boat (approximately zero).

>
>
> 4.  Would a trolling motor (electric kind) work on something like this?

Sure.

Good luck, if you really want a boat then there may be other less troublesome
alternatives in your area that are also inexpensive. If you just want to help
out a buddy, buy him a six-pack and loan him your car to haul the thing to the
dump.

DSK
Re: Buying an older boat????
#4060
Author: Wayne "Ratbo" Canino
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:18
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That may be a little harsh but the point is valid. I wouln't pay over $400
for it if all can be made to work.

-W

"Douglas King" <doug888@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3D47CF0D.EE332E57@bellsouth.net...
> Fred11 wrote:
>
> > I have the opportunity to buy an older boat that a buddy of mine has
owned
> > for at least the last 15 years...
>
> and you describe this guy as a "buddy?" Don't get out much, do you?
>
> This boat has no value. The engine, if it runs without making a lot of
> obnoxious noise & smoke, is worth something but not much. The trailer, if
it
> can be made roadable, is worth something too.
>
> All of them together are marginally worth the cost of bringing it home, if
you
> need a project to work on in your spare time. Otherwise your buddy is
going to
> have to pay a landfill to accept it.
>
> >
> > My questions are:
> >
> > 1.  If it hasn't been started for 4-5 years do you think the engine
could
> > have seized? (stored outdoors only last 2 years)
>
> Definitely. OTOH if it has received proper care, it might start up with
some
> futzing around.
>
> >
> >
> > 2.  Is it expensive to repair the clear plastic windows of the cover?
> > (they've been destroyed by the sun and age)
>
> You should probably replace the cover... consider getting a tarp.
>
> >
> >
> > 3.  What is an older boat like this worth, how do I figure that out?
>
> Easy. What will it cost to put tires, bearings, & a license on the
trailer, get
> the engine running (parts + time), and cleaning materials to get the fug
off it
> from the half-destroyed cover? Subtract this from the price that anybody
in his
> right mind would pay for the boat (approximately zero).
>
> >
> >
> > 4.  Would a trolling motor (electric kind) work on something like this?
>
> Sure.
>
> Good luck, if you really want a boat then there may be other less
troublesome
> alternatives in your area that are also inexpensive. If you just want to
help
> out a buddy, buy him a six-pack and loan him your car to haul the thing to
the
> dump.
>
> DSK
>
>
>
>
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