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In article <1993Jan22.211914.26981@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> lien@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (LIEN FANG PEI) writes:
>On my last trip to Las Vegas, a cashier gave me $400     
>more than I cashed in because she miscounted a black $100
>chip as a pink $500 chip.
>
>Because I didn't want the cashier to have a big
>trouble, I gave the $400 back to the cashier after leaving
>the cashier for five minutes.  Her manager called the
>security department to check the video tape for
>verification.  Yes, it was on the tape.  So, they took the
>money back and I got a sensational thank for my honesty and
>a complimentary meal.
>
>I am just wondering what if I didn't return the $400?

Likely, the cashier would owe $400 to the casino at the end of the day.
I suppose the cashier could also lose his/her job.

>I am positively sure that I won't return the $400 if a
>dealer gives me a pink for a black.  

I agree.  A mistake like that at a table would go completely
un-noticed and no one person would get in trouble.

>But from a cashier, I am still not sure.

I think you did the right thing.  
Keeping the money would be very much like stealing $400 from 
someone will they weren't looking.

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In article <1993Jan22.211914.26981@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> lien@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (LIEN FANG PEI) writes:

>On my last trip to Las Vegas, a cashier gave me $400     
>more than I cashed in because she miscounted a black $100
>chip as a pink $500 chip.

>Because I didn't want the cashier to have a big
>trouble, I gave the $400 back to the cashier after leaving
>the cashier for five minutes.  Her manager called the
>security department to check the video tape for
>verification.  Yes, it was on the tape.  So, they took the
>money back and I got a sensational thank for my honesty and
>a complimentary meal.

The fact that they gave you a complimentary meal shows some class
on their behalf cause lets face it, you could easily have pocketed
that money had you wanted to. It was not your error, and as they make
errors you could just as easily have made an error in the amount that
you thought you had cashed out, so there was no significant concern
for being challenged on it either. You were being a nice guy.

>I am just wondering what if I didn't return the $400?
>I am positively sure that I won't return the $400 if a
>dealer gives me a pink for a black.  But from a cashier, I
>am still not sure.

>Douglas Chang

Cashiers are supposed to be bonded for that kind of thing. I'm not
exactly sure about the details of such "bonding" but from what I
understand its the equivalent of an insurance against discrepancies
between what was taken in and what was paid out. 

Making up the balance at the cage for that particular shift would have
reaveled that there was a $400 discrepency, but if a dealer makes a 
mistake like that there's no way to track it down with an audit. The
only things that they can keep track of at the table games are what
goes down the "drop slot" and how much went to the table in "chip fills,"
after that everything else is obscured because players come and go with
chips to and from other tables. 

If a dealer paid out $400 too much it would be treated as a loss if no
one caught it, and no one would know the difference. It would probably
be on tape but there would be no reason to look for specifically that
error because there was no audit to point out what happened.

 
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In article <1993Jan27.204504.21141@crd.ge.com> davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:

>  I'm sure if I caught an error for or against me I would see that it
>got corrected. By the cashier, by the dealer, whatever. If the money is
>not mine and I can identify who is the rightful owner, it goes back.

It is easy enough to correct errors in your favor, but often difficult
or impossible to correct errors against you.  The first time a dealer
erroneously paid me off at blackjack, I gave the money back.  But
after a few experiences having my cards and my money snatched away
when I should have pushed, I decided to let most errors slide and hope
that it all evens out in the end.

Not a very noble attitude, but there isn't a lot of nobility in most
casinos that I've seen.  Maybe that's why the Divine Masters disapprove.

--
David Barnett
dbarnett@tamu.edu

In article <1993Jan22.211914.26981@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, lien@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (LIEN FANG PEI) writes:

| I am just wondering what if I didn't return the $400?
| I am positively sure that I won't return the $400 if a
| dealer gives me a pink for a black.  But from a cashier, I
| am still not sure.

  I'm sure if I caught an error for or against me I would see that it
got corrected. By the cashier, by the dealer, whatever. If the money is
not mine and I can identify who is the rightful owner, it goes back.

  If I find a chip on the floor or something with no one looking for
it, then it's mine, because the rightful owner can't be located. If I
can take advantage of their rules to accept an offer, get a comp,
qualify for a better price, etc, I will, but I won't take something
which clearly isn't mine.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	A terible poker player can have a great hand,
	A obnoxious fool can have a good idea.
	Both are winners, regardless of who has them.