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Started by mcelwre
Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:21
THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Author: mcelwre
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:21
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:21
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Both "Eckankar" and "Sant Mat" (referred to in the following article)
PROHIBIT their Initiates from ANY form of gambling:
THE DIVINE MASTERS
Most Christians would agree, and correctly so, that
Jesus Christ was a perfect living Master, and a projection of
God into the physical world, God Incarnate.
But there are some very important related facts that
Christians are COMPLETELY IGNORANT of, as are followers of
most other world religions.
First, Jesus Christ was NOT unique, John 3:16 NOTWITH-
STANDING. There is ALWAYS at least one such perfect living
Master (God Incarnate) PHYSICALLY ALIVE in this world AT ALL
TIMES, a continuous succession THROUGHOUT HISTORY, both
before and after the life of Jesus.
The followers of some of these Masters founded the
world's major religions, usually PERVERTING the teachings of
their Master in the process. Christians, for example, added
THREATS of "ETERNAL DAMNATION" in Hell, and DELETED the
teaching of REincarnation.
Secondly, and more importantly, after a particular
Master physically dies and leaves this world, there is
NOTHING that He can do for ANYbody except for the relatively
few people that He INITIATED while He was still physically
alive. (That is simply the way God set things up in the
Universes.)
Therefore, all those Christians who worship Jesus, and
pray to Jesus, and expect Jesus to return and save them from
their sins, are only KIDDING THEMSELVES, and have allowed
themselves to be DUPED by a religion that was mostly
MANUFACTURED by the Romans.
And emotional "feelings" are a TOTALLY DECEIVING
indicator for religious validity.
These things are similarly true for followers of most
other major world religions, including Islam.
Thirdly, the primary function of each Master is to tune
His Initiates into the "AUDIBLE LIFE STREAM" or "SOUND
CURRENT", (referred to as "THE WORD" in John 1:1-5, and as
"The River of Life" in Revelation 22:1), and to personally
guide each of them thru the upper levels of Heaven while they
are still connected to their living physical bodies by a
"silver cord".
True Salvation, which completes a Soul's cycles of
REincarnation in the physical and psychic planes, is achieved
only by reaching at least the "SOUL PLANE", which is five
levels or universes above the physical universe, and this
canNOT be done without the help of a Perfect LIVING Master.
One such perfect Master alive today is an American, Sri
Harold Klemp, the Living "Eck" Master or "Mahanta" for the
"Eckankar" organization, now headquartered in Minneapolis,
(P.O. Box 27300; zip 55427).
Another perfect living Master is Maharaj Gurinder Singh
Ji, now living in Punjab, India, and is associated with the
"Sant Mat" organization.
One of the classic books on this subject is "THE PATH OF
THE MASTERS" (Radha Soami Books, P.O. Box 242, Gardena, CA
90247), written in 1939 by Dr. Julian Johnson, a theologian
and surgeon who spent the last years of his life in India
studying under and closely observing the Sant Mat Master of
that time, Maharaj Sawan Singh Ji.
Several of the Eckankar books, including some authored
by Sri Paul Twitchell or Sri Harold Klemp, can be found in
most public and university libraries and some book stores, or
obtained thru inter-library loan. The book "ECKANKAR--THE
KEY TO SECRET WORLDS", by Sri Paul Twitchell, is ANOTHER
classic.
Many Christians are likely to confuse the Masters with
the "Anti-Christ", which is or was to be a temporary world
dictator during the so-called "last days". But the Masters
don't ever rule, even when asked or expected to do so as
Jesus was.
People who continue following Christianity, Islam, or
other orthodox religions with a physically DEAD Master, will
CONTINUE on their cycles of REincarnation, between the
psychic planes and this MISERABLE physical world, until they
finally WISE UP!
RE-INCARNATION
The book "HERE AND HEREAFTER", by Ruth Montgomery,
describes several kinds of evidence supporting REincarnation
as a FACT OF LIFE, including HYPNOTIC REGRESSIONS to past
lives, SPONTANEOUS RECALL (especially by young children, some
of whom can identify their most recent previous relatives,
homes, possessions, etc.), DREAM RECALL of past life experi-
ences, DEJA VU (familiarity with a far off land while travel-
ing there for the first time on vacation), the psychic read-
ings of the late EDGAR CAYCE, and EVEN SUPPORTING STATEMENTS
FROM THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE including Matthew 17:11-13 (John the
Baptist was the REINCARNATION of Elias.) and John 9:1-2 (How
can a person POSSIBLY sin before he is born, unless he LIVED
BEFORE?!). [ ALWAYS use the "KING JAMES VERSION". Later
versions are PER-VERSIONS! ] Strong INTERESTS, innate
TALENTS, strong PHOBIAS, etc., typically originate from a
person's PAST LIVES. For example, a strong fear of swimming
in or traveling over water usually results from having
DROWNED at the end of a PREVIOUS LIFE. And sometimes a
person will take AN IMMEDIATE DISLIKE to another person being
met for the first time, because of a bad encounter with him
during a PREVIOUS INCARNATION.
The teaching of REincarnation also includes the LAW OF
KARMA (Galatians 6:7, Revelation 13:10, etc.). People would
behave much better toward each other if they knew that their
actions in the present will surely be reaped by them in the
future, or in a FUTURE INCARNATION!
"2nd COMINGS"
If a Perfect Living Master physically dies ("trans-
lates") before a particular Initiate of His does, then when
that Initiate physically dies ("translates"), the Master will
meet him on the Astral level and take him directly to the
Soul Plane. This is the ONE AND ONLY correct meaning of a
2nd Coming. It is an INDIVIDUAL experience, NOT something
that happens for everyone all at once. People who are still
waiting for Jesus' "2nd Coming" are WAITING IN VAIN.
PLANES OF EXISTENCE
The physical universe is the LOWEST of AT LEAST a DOZEN
major levels of existence. Above the Physical Plane is the
Astral Plane, the Causal Plane, the Mental Plane, the Etheric
Plane (often counted as the upper part of the Mental Plane),
the Soul Plane, and several higher Spiritual Planes. The
Soul Plane is the FIRST TRUE HEAVEN, (counting upward from
the Physical). The planes between (but NOT including) the
Physical and Soul Planes are called the Psychic Planes.
It is likely that ESP, telepathy, astrological
influences, radionic effects, biological transmutations [See
the 1972 book with that title.], and other phenomena without
an apparent physical origin, result from INTERACTIONS between
the Psychic Planes and the Physical Plane.
The major planes are also SUB-DIVIDED. For example, a
sub-plane of the Astral Plane is called "Hades", and the
Christian Hell occupies a SMALL part of it, created there
LESS THAN 2000 YEARS AGO by the EARLY CATHOLIC CHURCH by some
kind of black magic or by simply teaching its existence in a
THREATENING manner. The Christian "Heaven" is located
elsewhere on the Astral Plane. Good Christians will go there
for a short while and then REincarnate back to Earth.
SOUND CURRENT vs. BLIND FAITH
The Christian religion demands of its followers an
extraordinary amount of BLIND FAITH backed up by little more
than GOOD FEELING (which is TOTALLY DECEIVING).
If a person is not HEARING some form of the "SOUND
CURRENT" ("THE WORD", "THE BANI", "THE AUDIBLE LIFE STREAM"),
then his cycles of REINCARNATION in this MISERABLE world WILL
CONTINUE.
The "SOUND CURRENT" manifests differently for different
Initiates, and can sound like a rushing wind, ocean waves on
the sea shore, buzzing bees, higher-pitched buzzing sound, a
flute, various heavenly music, or other sounds. In Eckankar,
Members start hearing it near the end of their first year as
a Member. This and other experiences (such as "SOUL TRAVEL")
REPLACE blind faith.
UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this
IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED.
Robert E. McElwaine
2nd Initiate in Eckankar
Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Author: Jacob Jin
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:21
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:21
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In article <1993Jan25.172151.3294@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes: > > Thirdly, the primary function of each Master is to tune > His Initiates into the "AUDIBLE LIFE STREAM" or "SOUND > CURRENT", (referred to as "THE WORD" in John 1:1-5, and as > "The River of Life" in Revelation 22:1), and to personally > guide each of them thru the upper levels of Heaven while they > are still connected to their living physical bodies by a > "silver cord". This is true, and a good example of that is Gary Baze who in this race tuned into his filly, "Beelzebub", on the final turn and rallied to show. Still, even at 22:1, Revelation was a solid bet, and coupled with my pick, Hammer 'n' Nails (13:1), paid a fairly celestial exacta.
Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Author: Edmund Hack
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:16
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:16
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AIEEEEEEEE!!!
The SUPREME FOLLOWER of Dr. PETER BETER has managed to LEAVE sci.space
and other groups and make it to rec.gambling. Now WE FIND that he and
his RANDOM CAPITALIZER have made it to an UNUSUAL RELIGION.
- "I wonder if I can HITCH a RIDE on a COSMOSPHERE to a
RUSSIAN casino?"
--
Edmund Hack - Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co. - Houston, TX
hack@aio.jsc.nasa.gov - I speak only for myself, unless blah, blah..
"I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV."
"Detail Dress Circuits" "Belt: Above A, Below B" "Close B ClothesMode"
Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Author: james webb
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:43
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:43
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What the hell is this shit? No one wants to hear you religous babble. Besides, didn't see god playing poker in Oh God! III? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James Webb jawebb@hydra.unm.edu Go Cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Dolphins!!!!!!!!
Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Author: Brother Sky Masterson
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:05
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:05
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In article <1993Jan25.172151.3294@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes: [moronic crap deleted] In article <1k3abl$k60@agate.berkeley.edu> jacob@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jacob Jin) writes: >This is true, and a good example of that is Gary Baze who in this >race tuned into his filly, "Beelzebub", on the final turn and >rallied to show. Still, even at 22:1, Revelation was a solid >bet, and coupled with my pick, Hammer 'n' Nails (13:1), paid >a fairly celestial exacta. Ah, how about the time I am reading Daniel just before I hit a three-horse parlay with Shadrack, Meshack, and Abendnego? Who says the Good Book doesn't come in handy?
Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Author: Mike Gadberry
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:12
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:12
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> Both "Eckankar" and "Sant Mat" (referred to in the following article) >PROHIBIT their Initiates from ANY form of gambling: > > [irrelevant self-righteous obfuscationism omitted] > >Robert E. McElwaine >2nd Initiate in Eckankar Hey, Bob! I've got a hot tip for Eckankar and St. Mat: if GOD plays dice with the UNIVERSE, it doesn't PAY to be a WRONG BETTOR. -Lighten up, Michael gadberry@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu
Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Author: Dave Slaven
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:16
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:16
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In <1993Jan25.172151.3294@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
> The "SOUND CURRENT" manifests differently for different
> Initiates, and can sound like a rushing wind, ocean waves on
> the sea shore, buzzing bees, higher-pitched buzzing sound, a
> flute, various heavenly music, or other sounds. In Eckankar,
> Members start hearing it near the end of their first year as
> a Member.
Sometimes it tells me to climb a high belltower with an AK-47.
Dave Slaven
80th Initiate in Texas Hold'em
--
Dave Slaven
"And if you must keep talking, please try to make it rhyme."
--Mose Allison
Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Author: John F. Reeves
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:21
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:21
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slaven@iastate.edu (Dave Slaven) writes:
!In <1993Jan25.172151.3294@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
!> The "SOUND CURRENT" manifests differently for different
!> Initiates, and can sound like a rushing wind, ocean waves on
!> the sea shore, buzzing bees, higher-pitched buzzing sound, a
!> flute, various heavenly music, or other sounds. In Eckankar,
!> Members start hearing it near the end of their first year as
!> a Member.
!
!Sometimes it tells me to climb a high belltower with an AK-47.
They tell me there is an Omaha game up there.
--John
"Only if the AK are suited, and the
47 doesn't have much of a chance for low"
--
John Reeves -----------------------------------------------------------
UCLA AI Lab Internet: reeves@cs.ucla.edu
3531 Boelter Hall UUCP: ...!(uunet,rutgers,ucbvax)!cs.ucla.edu!reeves
UCLA LA CA 90024 ------------------------------------------------------
Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Author: Bill Reid
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:01
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:01
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In article <1993Jan25.172151.3294@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes: > > Both "Eckankar" and "Sant Mat" (referred to in the following article) >PROHIBIT their Initiates from ANY form of gambling: > There are no atheists at craps tables. I have taken the name of the GRAND MASTER ECK in vain many times when the PROFANE/SACRED number 7 appeared. Besides, I played BJ for several hours with a guy who is a MEMBER of this WEIRD RELIGION, and though he attempted SOUL TRAVEL into the deck, he lost, while I WON. Plus he irritated the hell out of everybody with his constant HUMMING.
Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Author: Frank Irwin
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:11
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:11
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In article <185149@pyramid.pyramid.com> breid@pyrhard2.eng.pyramid.com (Bill Reid) writes: >In article <1993Jan25.172151.3294@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes: >> >> Both "Eckankar" and "Sant Mat" (referred to in the following article) >>PROHIBIT their Initiates from ANY form of gambling: >> >Besides, I played BJ for several hours with a guy who is >a MEMBER of this WEIRD RELIGION, and though he attempted SOUL TRAVEL >into the deck, he lost, while I WON. Plus he irritated the hell >out of everybody with his constant HUMMING. It's good to see that you and Jacobs are back on speaking terms. BTW, that constant HUMMING isn't totally voluntary on his part, so go easy on him. -- ============================================================================ Frank Irwin | "When a person is as warped and pig-headed Vmark Software, Inc. | as yourself, no amount of sane logic on irwin%uvmark@merk.com | the other side will prevail."
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