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 When I was in Vegas last I had something happen that I was unclear about. 
I was on a $10 BJ table at CC and had just won a double down hand and took
back some chips. The cocktail waitress chose that moment to bring my drink
and as I reached for a $1 chip to give her I grabbed what I thought was a
$10 chip and put it down for my bet. The dealer dealt out the cards and it was
then (before looking at my cards although I have no idea if the dealer knew
Ihad yet to look at them) that I saw that it was only a $5 chip. I pointed
it out to the dealer and said "sorry I thought it was a ten" and he said
"just go ahead and put another five down". I did and then looked at my cards
and saw that I had a blackjack. I felt like a slimeball figuring that he
probably thought I knew what I had and I gave him a five but I was curious
as to what should have been done in that situation. Should he have allowed
me to increase my bet to the table minimum as I did or just given me
some shit and made me play the $5? 


			gln

In article <30546@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>
[about placing a $5 bet at a $10 table]
>
>
This poses a dilemma as two rules apply.  The dealer should not allow you
to place a bet for less than the minimum and it is his responsibility to
gently remind you of the minimum.  Furthermore he should not allow you to
change your bet after the first card of the round is dealt.  What the 
dealer should have done is call a pit-critter who has the authority to
make an executive decision irrespective of the applicable rules.

Practise at home until you can accept and tip for drinks and play BJ
simultaneously and you won't have this problem ;^).
>

gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:

> When I was in Vegas last I had something happen that I was unclear about. 
>I was on a $10 BJ table at CC and had just won a double down hand and took
>back some chips. The cocktail waitress chose that moment to bring my drink
>and as I reached for a $1 chip to give her I grabbed what I thought was a
>$10 chip and put it down for my bet.

You must have been really sloshed, since there are no $10 chips.

>The dealer dealt out the cards and it was
>then (before looking at my cards although I have no idea if the dealer knew
>Ihad yet to look at them) that I saw that it was only a $5 chip. I pointed
>it out to the dealer and said "sorry I thought it was a ten" and he said
>"just go ahead and put another five down". I did and then looked at my cards
>and saw that I had a blackjack. I felt like a slimeball figuring that he
>probably thought I knew what I had and I gave him a five but I was curious
>as to what should have been done in that situation. Should he have allowed
>me to increase my bet to the table minimum as I did or just given me
>some shit and made me play the $5? 

Normally, they give you some shit and let you play the $5 for that round
only.

-- 
Michael Hall   \  Player: "Should I split [9's versus dealer 4]?"
personal account\ Dealer: "The book says not too."
mhall@netcom.com \ -Yes, I overheard this at a casino blackjack table.

In article <1k3ul5INNo88@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST801904@brownvm.brown.edu () writes:
>I am normally a Hi-Opt 1 player.  I would assume that I could simply play
>the Hi-Opt 1 game and then place over bets when the count is high and under
>bets when the count is low, with a negative adjustment for the ace side count.
>But at which Hi-Opt count levels do these side bets become profitable?  And
>is this as good as using the Over-Under counting scheme from the FAQ?

No.  Here's what you do, if you want to get the max. advantage possible for
any BJ on the east coast:  Go to foxwoods.  Stand behind some player, and
keep the over/under count.  Don't bother playing through the shoe, you'll lose.
Then, when the Hi/Lo count goes favorable (remember those are values for *true
counts*, not running counts) near the end of the shoe, put a bet in the
appropriate circle.  At Foxwoods, you can bet on someone else's hand.  Since
you are only betting on the value of the first two cards, no amount of inept
playing on that player's behalf can lose you your money.  Of course, if you're
really daring, keep the normal count simultaneously, and bet behind a player's
bet when it gets good.  But be sure to pick someone who seems to have some idea
of basic strategy!

---Sean Erwin

In article <1k6jm5INNbs7@network.ucsd.edu>, erwin@bend.ucsd.edu (Sean Erwin)
said:
>
>No.  Here's what you do, if you want to get the max. advantage possible for
>any BJ on the east coast:  Go to foxwoods.  Stand behind some player, and
>keep the over/under count.  Don't bother playing through the shoe, you'll
lose.
>Then, when the Hi/Lo count goes favorable (remember those are values for *true
>counts*, not running counts) near the end of the shoe, put a bet in the
>appropriate circle.  At Foxwoods, you can bet on someone else's hand.  Since
>you are only betting on the value of the first two cards, no amount of inept
>playing on that player's behalf can lose you your money.  Of course, if you're
>really daring, keep the normal count simultaneously, and bet behind a player's
>bet when it gets good.  But be sure to pick someone who seems to have some
idea
>of basic strategy!
>
>---Sean Erwin

      Excellent idea. The only problem is that I believe the
bet in the over/under circle can be no larger than the bet in the main circle,
so I'd have to find someone who is betting high only on the main bet, or
otherwise place a backline bet in the main circle as well as the over/under,
in which case they'd better be playing basic strategy or a close approximation!

- Geoff Talvola
st801904@brownvm.brown.edu