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Started by David Stevenson
Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:43
EBU White book 2004
Author: David Stevenson
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:43
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This publication is now available for download from the EBU site as a
PDF document. See
http://www.ebu.co.uk/laws_ethics/2004whitebook.htm
It contains EBU interpretations of laws: EBU understandings of WBFLC
minutes: EBU regulations: advice on how to direct: the WBF Code of
Practice. It is supplementary to the Laws of bridge, and to the Orange
book, which contains the regulations that generally interest the
players.
It applies in England and Wales from 1-1-2004 except for certain items
which should not be brought in part way through a competition year. The
page above lists the relevant items. The EBU Tournament Committee
expects to bring them in basically on 1-9-2004, or at the start of a
competition if there is one that does not run over a traditional year
[September to August]. It is expected that the WBU T&MPC and other
sponsoring organisations will follow suit.
One change is in Victory point scales. Because there is a lot of
stationery still around it is expected that in several cases the new
Victory point scales will only apply once the old stationery has run
out!
The WBU regulation [paraphrased] says that the EBU White book applies
except when WBU regulations say otherwise. This makes it easy for them
to have a default position, without them being forced to follow any
specific regulation with which they disagree. Other sponsoring
organisations that do not have detailed regulations in many areas are
encouraged to do the same.
For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District Championship Pairs
finishes in a tie. Hopefully they have a tie-splitting procedure. But
suppose they do not? Bloodshed might be avoided if the South Mumbai and
District Bridge and Chess Association had previously said that the EBU
White book applies if the SMDBCA has not issued any other regulation:
now you just look up tie-splitting in the White book.
--
David Stevenson Bridge RTFLB Cats Railways /\ /\
Liverpool, England, UK Fax: +44 870 055 7697 @ @
<bridge2@blakjak.com> ICQ 20039682 bluejak on OKB =( + )=
Bridgepage: http://blakjak.com/brg_menu.htm ~
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: John Crinnion
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:00
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David Stevenson <bridge2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<QmOLlsHuJ03$EwcE@blakjak.demon.co.uk>... <SNIP> > For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District Championship Pairs > finishes in a tie. Hopefully they have a tie-splitting procedure. But > suppose they do not? Bloodshed might be avoided if the South Mumbai and > District Bridge and Chess Association had previously said that the EBU > White book applies if the SMDBCA has not issued any other regulation: > now you just look up tie-splitting in the White book. Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead of the - to a non-native of India - preposterous affectation of 'Mumbai'?
Re: EBU White book 2004 (*)
Author: Kenny McCormack
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:09
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In article <2f389bab.0312170800.75fcbe32@posting.google.com>, John Crinnion <jcrinnion@yahoo.com> wrote: >David Stevenson <bridge2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<QmOLlsHuJ03$EwcE@blakjak.demon.co.uk>... > ><SNIP> > >> For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District Championship Pairs >> finishes in a tie. Hopefully they have a tie-splitting procedure. But >> suppose they do not? Bloodshed might be avoided if the South Mumbai and >> District Bridge and Chess Association had previously said that the EBU >> White book applies if the SMDBCA has not issued any other regulation: >> now you just look up tie-splitting in the White book. > >Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead of the - to a >non-native of India - preposterous affectation of 'Mumbai'? 1) Because that's the name of the city. That's what we called it when I was there. And I'm not a native. 2) It was a hypothetical. 3) I've changed the title of this thread, because one of my spam trappers deletes threads that end in 4 digits (since that's what the current crop of "so-and-so nude" threads end with) It would be good in future if posters avoided ending their thread titles with 4 digits.
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: Frances Hinden
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:52
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jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message news:<2f389bab.0312170800.75fcbe32@posting.google.com>... > David Stevenson <bridge2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<QmOLlsHuJ03$EwcE@blakjak.demon.co.uk>... > > <SNIP> > > > For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District Championship Pairs > > finishes in a tie. Hopefully they have a tie-splitting procedure. But > > suppose they do not? Bloodshed might be avoided if the South Mumbai and > > District Bridge and Chess Association had previously said that the EBU > > White book applies if the SMDBCA has not issued any other regulation: > > now you just look up tie-splitting in the White book. > > Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead of the - to a > non-native of India - preposterous affectation of 'Mumbai'? For the same reason we write Beijing.
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: John Crinnion
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:48
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fhinden@orange.net (Frances Hinden) wrote in message news:<d30df517.0312171452.4cfce39b@posting.google.com>... > jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message news:<2f389bab.0312170800.75fcbe32@posting.google.com>... > > David Stevenson <bridge2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<QmOLlsHuJ03$EwcE@blakjak.demon.co.uk>... > > > > <SNIP> > > > > > For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District Championship Pairs > > > finishes in a tie. Hopefully they have a tie-splitting procedure. But > > > suppose they do not? Bloodshed might be avoided if the South Mumbai and > > > District Bridge and Chess Association had previously said that the EBU > > > White book applies if the SMDBCA has not issued any other regulation: > > > now you just look up tie-splitting in the White book. > > > > Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead of the - to a > > non-native of India - preposterous affectation of 'Mumbai'? > For the same reason we write Beijing. Who, pray, is the 'we' here?
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: Peter Clinch
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:35
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:35
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jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message news:<2f389bab.0312180348.7c0265b8@posting.google.com>... > fhinden@orange.net (Frances Hinden) wrote in message news:<d30df517.0312171452.4cfce39b@posting.google.com>... > > jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message news:<2f389bab.0312170800.75fcbe32@posting.google.com>... > > > David Stevenson <bridge2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<QmOLlsHuJ03$EwcE@blakjak.demon.co.uk>... > > > > > > <SNIP> > > > > > > > For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District Championship Pairs > > > > finishes in a tie. Hopefully they have a tie-splitting procedure. But > > > > suppose they do not? Bloodshed might be avoided if the South Mumbai and > > > > District Bridge and Chess Association had previously said that the EBU > > > > White book applies if the SMDBCA has not issued any other regulation: > > > > now you just look up tie-splitting in the White book. > > > > > > Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead of the - to a > > > non-native of India - preposterous affectation of 'Mumbai'? > > > > For the same reason we write Beijing. > > Who, pray, is the 'we' here? Pretty much everyone who knows what the names of these places are.
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: Chris Ryall
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:31
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>>> Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead of the - >>> to a non-native of India - preposterous affectation of 'Mumbai'? >> For the same reason we write Beijing. > > Who, pray, is the 'we' here? Count me in please! AFAIR the Chinese government *asked* the world to use the Beijing transliteration in the 70's, as Pekin/Peking did not reflect the local pronounciation. I'd not realised that 'Bombay' had been de-'Ported' but to quote an indian site ... By any other name The city was called Bombay for much of the last four hundred years. The origin of the name is obscure, but is often said to come from the Portuguese phrase bom bahia meaning "good bay". The name Mumbai has been used in the main local languages for as long, and is ascribed to the local goddess, Mumba (ai means mother in Marathi). The name of the city was changed to Mumbai by an act of the parliament in 1997. - http://theory.tifr.res.in/bombay/ Interesting filename, huh! Lonely Planet do better ... http://www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/indian_subcontinent/mumbai/ Or does the university convince? http://www.mu.ac.in/ Clearly things are still in flux. Personally I will retain the old epithets in cooking - Pekin Duck, Bombay Duck etc. And what has this to do with the EBU? "Aylesbury Duck" of course. Shame the thread is about the white book, rather than the orange. :)) Chris Ryall
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: Chris Ryall
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:37
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David Stevenson: http://www.ebu.co.uk/laws_ethics/2004whitebook.htm > It applies in England and Wales from 1-1-2004 except for certain items > which should not be brought in part way through a competition year. The > page above lists the relevant items. The EBU Tournament Committee > expects to bring them in basically on 1-9-2004, or at the start of a > competition if there is one that does not run over a traditional year > [September to August]. It is **expected** that the WBU T&MPC and other > sponsoring organisations will follow suit. Although these august but independent bodies usually do what the EBU tells them, prehaps **anticipated** might have been a better choice of word Chris -- "England expects every man to do his duty" Lord Nelson, Britain v France 1805
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: David Stevenson
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:11
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Chris Ryall wrote
>David Stevenson: http://www.ebu.co.uk/laws_ethics/2004whitebook.htm
>
>> It applies in England and Wales from 1-1-2004 except for certain items
>> which should not be brought in part way through a competition year. The
>> page above lists the relevant items. The EBU Tournament Committee
>> expects to bring them in basically on 1-9-2004, or at the start of a
>> competition if there is one that does not run over a traditional year
>> [September to August]. It is **expected** that the WBU T&MPC and other
>> sponsoring organisations will follow suit.
>
>Although these august but independent bodies usually do what the EBU
>tells them, prehaps **anticipated** might have been a better choice of
>word
Many of these august bodies do not do what the EBU tells them because
the EBU L&EC does not tell them to do anything. However, experience has
shown that they generally follow EBU L&EC rules. Personally, the reason
I used the word expect is because I expect it to happen. 'anticipate'
is not a better word because I expressed a personal view and my view is
that it is expected.
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David Stevenson Bridge RTFLB Cats Railways /\ /\
Liverpool, England, UK Fax: +44 870 055 7697 @ @
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Bridgepage: http://blakjak.com/brg_menu.htm ~
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: John Crinnion
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:19
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:19
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doublesqueeze@yahoo.com (Peter Clinch) wrote in message news:<50e18684.0312182035.4866da68@posting.google.com>... > jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message news:<2f389bab.0312180348.7c0265b8@posting.google.com>... > > fhinden@orange.net (Frances Hinden) wrote in message news:<d30df517.0312171452.4cfce39b@posting.google.com>... > > > jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message news:<2f389bab.0312170800.75fcbe32@posting.google.com>... > > > > David Stevenson <bridge2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<QmOLlsHuJ03$EwcE@blakjak.demon.co.uk>... > > > > > > > > <SNIP> > > > > > > > > > For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District Championship Pairs > > > > > finishes in a tie. Hopefully they have a tie-splitting procedure. But > > > > > suppose they do not? Bloodshed might be avoided if the South Mumbai and > > > > > District Bridge and Chess Association had previously said that the EBU > > > > > White book applies if the SMDBCA has not issued any other regulation: > > > > > now you just look up tie-splitting in the White book. > > > > > > > > Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead of the - to a > > > > non-native of India - preposterous affectation of 'Mumbai'? > > > > > > > For the same reason we write Beijing. > > > > Who, pray, is the 'we' here? > > Pretty much everyone who knows what the names of these places are. Unrewarding though your input undoubtedly is, at least you have the grace to keep off topic. "EBU White book 2004" - ugh! - I ask you.
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: Ashok
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:18
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In article <2f389bab.0312190519.6e560e6e@posting.google.com>, jcrinnion@yahoo.com says... > >doublesqueeze@yahoo.com (Peter Clinch) wrote in message news:<50e18684.0312182035.4866da68@posting.google.com>... >> jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message news:<2f389bab.0312180348.7c0265b8@posting.google.com>... >> > fhinden@orange.net (Frances Hinden) wrote in message news:<d30df517.0312171452.4cfce39b@posting.google.com>... >> > > jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message news:<2f389bab.0312170800.75fcbe32@posting.google.com>... >> > > > David Stevenson <bridge2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<QmOLlsHuJ03$EwcE@blakjak.demon.co.uk>... >> > > > >> > > > <SNIP> >> > > > >> > > > > For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District Championship Pairs >> > > > > finishes in a tie. Hopefully they have a tie-splitting procedure. But >> > > > > suppose they do not? Bloodshed might be avoided if the South Mumbai and >> > > > > District Bridge and Chess Association had previously said that the EBU >> > > > > White book applies if the SMDBCA has not issued any other regulation: >> > > > > now you just look up tie-splitting in the White book. >> > > > >> > > > Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead of the - to a >> > > > non-native of India - preposterous affectation of 'Mumbai'? >> > >> > >> > > For the same reason we write Beijing. >> > >> > Who, pray, is the 'we' here? >> >> Pretty much everyone who knows what the names of these places are. > >Unrewarding though your input undoubtedly is, "Unrewarding"? Peter called you an ignoramus, you idiot! Ashok at least you have the >grace to keep off topic. "EBU White book 2004" - ugh! - I ask you.
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: John (MadDog) Probst
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:35
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In article <8eec2d9f.0312190131.70657d2f@posting.google.com>, Chris Ryall <groups1@cavendish.demon.co.uk> writes > >Clearly things are still in flux. Personally I will retain the old >epithets in cooking - Pekin Duck, Bombay Duck etc. And what has this >to do with the EBU? "Aylesbury Duck" of course. Shame the thread is >about the white book, rather than the orange. :)) Chris Ryall ROFL ... and when you get a zero would you say "eider duck". Well at least it would be a soft landing. John -- John (MadDog) Probst| . ! -^- |icq 10810798 451 Mile End Road | /|__. \:/ |OKb ChienFou London E3 4PA | / @ __) -|- |john@asimere.com +44-(0)20 8983 5818 | /\ --^ | |www.asimere.com/~john
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: John Crinnion
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:37
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adhareshwar@hotmail.com (Ashok) wrote in message news:<brvbt3$1jip$3@ID-74854.news.uni-berlin.de>... > In article <2f389bab.0312190519.6e560e6e@posting.google.com>, jcrinnion@yahoo.com says... > > > >doublesqueeze@yahoo.com (Peter Clinch) wrote in message news:<50e18684.0312182035.4866da68@posting.google.com>... > >> jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message news:<2f389bab.0312180348.7c0265b8@posting.google.com>... > >> > fhinden@orange.net (Frances Hinden) wrote in message news:<d30df517.0312171452.4cfce39b@posting.google.com>... > >> > > jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message news:<2f389bab.0312170800.75fcbe32@posting.google.com>... > >> > > > David Stevenson <bridge2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<QmOLlsHuJ03$EwcE@blakjak.demon.co.uk>... > >> > > > > >> > > > <SNIP> > >> > > > > >> > > > > For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District Championship Pairs > >> > > > > finishes in a tie. Hopefully they have a tie-splitting procedure. But > >> > > > > suppose they do not? Bloodshed might be avoided if the South Mumbai and > >> > > > > District Bridge and Chess Association had previously said that the EBU > >> > > > > White book applies if the SMDBCA has not issued any other regulation: > >> > > > > now you just look up tie-splitting in the White book. > >> > > > > >> > > > Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead of the - to a > >> > > > non-native of India - preposterous affectation of 'Mumbai'? > >> > > >> > > >> > > For the same reason we write Beijing. > >> > > >> > Who, pray, is the 'we' here? > >> > >> Pretty much everyone who knows what the names of these places are. > > > >Unrewarding though your input undoubtedly is, > > "Unrewarding"? Peter called you an ignoramus, you idiot! Whereas *your* input, Ashok, is both unrewarding AND off topic. > Ashok > > > at least you have the > >grace to keep off topic. "EBU White book 2004" - ugh! - I ask you.
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: Chris Ryall
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:33
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"John (MadDog) Probst" > >Clearly things are still in flux. Personally I will retain the old > >epithets in cooking - Pekin Duck, Bombay Duck etc. > > ROFL ... and when you get a zero would you say "eider duck". Well at > least it would be a soft landing. John .. I prefer to 'get my head down' after such things ;)) C
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: Julian Lighton
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:07
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In article <2f389bab.0312200737.47368778@posting.google.com>, John Crinnion <jcrinnion@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > > jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message >> >> > > news:<2f389bab.0312170800.75fcbe32@posting.google.com>... >> >> > > > David Stevenson <bridge2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in >> >> > > > message news:<QmOLlsHuJ03$EwcE@blakjak.demon.co.uk>... >> >> > > > > For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District >> >> > > > Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead >> >> > > > of the - to a non-native of India - preposterous >> >> > > > affectation of 'Mumbai'? >Whereas *your* input, Ashok, is both unrewarding AND off topic. You know, since you started this little digression, I don't think you have much of a right to complain about its topicality.
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: John Crinnion
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:16
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:16
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jl8e@fragment.com (Julian Lighton) wrote in message news:<vu9efuf5e1a14e@corp.supernews.com>... > In article <2f389bab.0312200737.47368778@posting.google.com>, > John Crinnion <jcrinnion@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> > > jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message > >> >> > > news:<2f389bab.0312170800.75fcbe32@posting.google.com>... > >> >> > > > David Stevenson <bridge2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in > >> >> > > > message news:<QmOLlsHuJ03$EwcE@blakjak.demon.co.uk>... > >> >> > > > > For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District > >> >> > > > Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead > >> >> > > > of the - to a non-native of India - preposterous > >> >> > > > affectation of 'Mumbai'? > >Whereas *your* input, Ashok, is both unrewarding AND off topic. > > You know, since you started this little digression, I don't think you > have much of a right to complain about its topicality. Bombay is right, Mumbai is wrong. End of story.
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: Kieran Dyke
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:42
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"John Crinnion" <jcrinnion@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2f389bab.0312210616.21ae97a7@posting.google.com... > jl8e@fragment.com (Julian Lighton) wrote in message news:<vu9efuf5e1a14e@corp.supernews.com>... > > In article <2f389bab.0312200737.47368778@posting.google.com>, > > John Crinnion <jcrinnion@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >> > > jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message > > >> >> > > news:<2f389bab.0312170800.75fcbe32@posting.google.com>... > > >> >> > > > David Stevenson <bridge2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in > > >> >> > > > message news:<QmOLlsHuJ03$EwcE@blakjak.demon.co.uk>... > > >> >> > > > > For example, suppose the South Mumbai and District > > >> >> > > > Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead > > >> >> > > > of the - to a non-native of India - preposterous > > >> >> > > > affectation of 'Mumbai'? > > >Whereas *your* input, Ashok, is both unrewarding AND off topic. > > > > You know, since you started this little digression, I don't think you > > have much of a right to complain about its topicality. > > Bombay is right, Mumbai is wrong. End of story. Maybe I should book you a cheap holiday to Ceylon, Formosa, Rhodesia and New Amsterdam. Tiggrr
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: Peter Clinch
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:53
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jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message > Bombay is right, Mumbai is wrong. End of story. ...he yelled repeatedly, as they led him gently by the hand and returned him to his padded cell. As they walked away his voice echoed wanly in the distance, demanding to see Sir Stafford Cripps...
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: Daniel Auby
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:32
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David! Poor you. Some part of subposting in this thread made me wish for Reef Fish to enter and use his usual and in this case appropriate expression. Who could ever have thought that one longed for Reef Fish... Yours Daniel
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: John Crinnion
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:25
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doublesqueeze@yahoo.com (Peter Clinch) wrote in message news:<50e18684.0312211653.62d98bc6@posting.google.com>... > jcrinnion@yahoo.com (John Crinnion) wrote in message > > > Bombay is right, Mumbai is wrong. End of story. > > ...he yelled repeatedly, as they led him gently by the hand and > returned him to his padded cell. As they walked away his voice echoed > wanly in the distance, demanding to see Sir Stafford Cripps... Very droll. We clearly have radically different ways of looking at the world.
Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: David Stevenson
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:42
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Daniel Auby wrote
>David!
>
>Poor you. Some part of subposting in this thread made me wish for Reef
>Fish to enter and use his usual and in this case appropriate
>expression.
>
>Who could ever have thought that one longed for Reef Fish...
Prats will be prats.
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Re: EBU White book 2004
Author: John Crinnion
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:15
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groups1@cavendish.demon.co.uk (Chris Ryall) wrote in message news:<8eec2d9f.0312190131.70657d2f@posting.google.com>... > >>> Why can't you write 'Bombay' like a human being, instead of the - > >>> to a non-native of India - preposterous affectation of 'Mumbai'? > > >> For the same reason we write Beijing. > > > > Who, pray, is the 'we' here? > > Count me in please! AFAIR the Chinese government *asked* the world to > use the Beijing transliteration in the 70's, as Pekin/Peking did not > reflect the local pronounciation. So we should pronounce 'New York' 'New Yoick'? <SNIP> > The name Mumbai has > been used in the main local languages for as long, and is ascribed to > the local goddess, Mumba (ai means mother in Marathi). The name of the > city was changed to Mumbai by an act of the parliament in 1997. - > http://theory.tifr.res.in/bombay/ I do not consider myself bound by the edicts of the Indian Parliament. > > Interesting filename, huh! Lonely Planet do better ... > http://www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/indian_subcontinent/mumbai/ > > Or does the university convince? http://www.mu.ac.in/ > > Clearly things are still in flux. Personally I will retain the old > epithets in cooking - Pekin Duck, Bombay Duck etc. And what has this > to do with the EBU? "Aylesbury Duck" of course. Shame the thread is > about the white book, rather than the orange. :)) Chris Ryall I think we are supposed to consider Aylesbury the bridge equivalent of the Vatican.
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