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Article #144University profs (Re: Formal programming ed)
From: Jerry Penner
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:12
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:12
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goss@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Timothy D. Goss) writes: >I want to make some comments about the previous poster who claimed that profs >in university don't know how to teach and blames them not the students... >Professors shouldn't teach. If you go to university, IMHO, you don't want to >be taught, you want to learn. The onus is entirely on the student. Having a >professor spoon feed you an entire course accomplishes nothing. Your prof is >a source of knowledge, a guide not a teacher. Anyone who doesn't want to >learn should not be at university. If you want to be spoonfed useless drivel >then go to college (yes virginia there is a difference) and learn nothing. I agree that you shouldn't go to University if you don't want to learn. However, profs should teach. They have to pass their knowledge and experience on to the next generation if we are, as a society, going to progress in various fields of academia. A genius prof who can't communicate with other people in a coherent fashion is useless to the world. The onus is not entirely on the student because profs can and do make it very difficult for students to learn in some cases. If the prof is going to be a source of knowledge for more than a few individuals, he/she is going to have to know how to lecture to a group of people. Hand-holding is not necessary but giving informative and interesting lectures is. Part of your above point depends on your definition of 'teach'. Maybe I should look it up in the dictionary but to me, 'to teach' means to pass on knowledge or insight to someone else. That definition doesn't specify the method, so it could be something other than lecturing, such as video, written papers to be read by students, or some other indirect method. But the point I'd like to make is that the professor should be held responsible for communicating the knowledge he has researched to others who are interested in knowing it--it is up to them to take that communicated information and learn it. -- Jerry Penner jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca
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Newsgroups: rec.games.programmer Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!wupost!gumby!destroyer!ubc-cs!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!ee.ualberta.ca!jpenne From: jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner) Subject: University profs (Re: Formal programming ed) Message-ID: <jpenne.711857530@ee.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Nntp-Posting-Host: eigen.ee.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <gate.ZoR7NB1w165w@toz.buffalo.ny.us> <1992Jul20.173919.1836@wam.umd.edu> <1992Jul21.123834.850@micor.ocunix.on.ca> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:12:10 GMT Lines: 39