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Re: University profs (Re: Formal programming ed)

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From: Khan
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:01
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In article <jpenne.711857530@ee.ualberta.ca> jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner) writes:
>goss@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Timothy D. Goss) writes:
>
>>I want to make some comments about the previous poster who claimed that profs
>>in university don't know how to teach and blames them not the students...
>
>>Professors shouldn't teach.  If you go to university, IMHO, you don't want to
>>be taught, you want to learn.  The onus is entirely on the student.  Having a
>>professor spoon feed you an entire course accomplishes nothing.  Your prof is
>>a source of knowledge, a guide not a teacher.  Anyone who doesn't want to 
>>learn should not be at university.  If you want to be spoonfed useless drivel
>>then go to college (yes virginia there is a difference) and learn nothing.
>
>I agree that you shouldn't go to University if you don't want  to
>learn.   However,  profs  should  teach.  They have to pass their
>knowledge and experience on to the next generation if we are,  as
>a  society,  going  to progress in various fields of academia.  A
>genius prof who can't communicate with other people in a coherent
>fashion is useless to the world.

Not at the typical University he's not. That prof contributes to the
world by doing research; many undergrads get the impression that the
teaching of sub-Graduate-level courses is almost an afterthought. It's
"publish or perish," not "teach undergrads or perish." Those students
who really want to learn WILL learn, simply from being in the
environment, exposed to other motivated students, graduate student TAs,
and profs. Those who want to be spoon fed might be happier at DeVry or
with a Sally Struthers correspondence course.

To the earlier poster who told us all we should be using email and then
ignored his own advice and proceeded to POST yet another contribution to
this thread: what's good for the goose... ;-)
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