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Re: Animation Speed & Redraw

#950
From: Kent Paul Dolan
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 1990 08:19
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gilmore@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Neil Gilmore) writes:
>Most games which I have programmed (on systems which had them) did not 
>tend to use hardware sprites, as there was always too many objects 
>moving around at once.

Hmmm.  Any reason not to use sprites for some stuff (bullets,
missiles, power bolts, etc.) and blitter objects for others?
From what I understand of sprites, doing as much as possible
with them seems to be A Good Thing.

[My experience with them is limited to AmigaBASIC, though;
the less said about that, the better.]

>Even using vsprites probably wouldn't work here. 

>I never found scrolling to be a problem. The technique which I would use 
>would scroll the buffered screen and redraw the animated portions with 
>the knowledge that the scroll had taken place. Thus, all I had to do was 
>scroll the screen, draw in those portions of the playfield which had 
>become visible, and renew the animated objects. You can even use the 
>same list of objects for each screen, as the positions, animation frame, 
>etc. still differ by only 1 from the current list (after scroll), even 
>though the positions differ by two from the position on the current 
>drawing screen.

I guess I don't understand that.

But anyway, fascinating discussion.  I have a question,
though.  In the case (not Amiga specific), where a "pristine"
background screen is being kept and the animation overlaid
with rectangles from that to restore the background, and then
redrawn in the new position, is it really so difficult to
synchronize with the vertical trace that double buffering is
needed, so you end up with THREE copies of the screen?  That
seems like a lot of overhead, if avoidable.  You've cut the
data you have to move by a third this way (overlay old
animation with pristine background, draw new animation,
versus overlay saved background rectangle, save new
background rectangle, draw animation in new rectangle's
space), doesn't that give you time to evade the scan line?

More generally, do you find yourself always becoming
performance bound before you become memory bound, so that
this "triple buffering" is a good tradeoff of memory for
speed?

Kent, the man from xanth.
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