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Re: .45 Long Colt vs .357 & .44 Magnum

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From: K. Karcich
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:27
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#	Most .45 Colt factory loads are mild, because of some of the
#older guns out there.  You'd have to tell more about your individual
#gun for anyone to comment on it.  The hottest .45 Colt I've ever heard 
#of from a factory is aprox equal to .45 ACP, but less than .45 ACP +P.

#255 gr at +-  750-950 fps.

#Lemme see, for Federal, they claim
#.45 Colt	225 gr	900 fps		405 ft-lbs
#.44 Mag		240 	1180 		741
#.357 Mag	158 	1235		535

#	The .45 Colt can be handloaded past .44 magnum levels, but
#only in _some_ decent modern guns.   A call to the manufacture of 
#your gun before trying any funny stuff would be wise.

	For those of us who like to push the old .45 along and make the shootersof the 44mags look like panseys, pressure gun tested data is available for
the ruger blackhawk from John Linebaugh, the custom pistolsmith. This data goes
to 32kpsi and is a much safer way to load up the above revolver and probably
the redhawk, dan wesson and the colt anaconda without playing guessing games.
I have used this data in my blackhawk and anaconda without problems and have
had easy extraction and long case life. Typical loads are a 260 gr cast bullet
at 1450 and a 320 gr at 1250-1300. The large bore diameter of the .45 Colt
gives it a real advantage over the .44 in terms of efficency with heavy bullets
at lower pressures, which is very good for us cast bullet shooters. Loaded this way I don't notice much difference between my .45 Colts and my .454 Casull!

	Note that I am not recommending any loads not found in common loading
manual or from industry approved sources. Anybody who wants the above data can
send 5 bucks to Linebaugh and get the data directly from him.

regards,
Ken Karcich


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Subject: Re: .45 Long Colt vs .357 & .44 Magnum
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