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Re: Use of Military Rank Socially

#522
From: Gino
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:53
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"Andrew Chaplin" <abchaplin@yourfinger.rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Gino wrote:
>
> > 'Tis a god awful piece of terminology for which I can only guess at the
> > politically correct justification.  Then again, the previous expression
> > "other ranks" wasn't that great either.  I think the RCN term "ratings"
was
> > preferable to either.
>
> Different ships, different splices, Gino; having been an Other Rank,
> it didn't bother me in the least. Soldiers don't have rates, so RCN
> terminology could hard have been applied -- and sailors don't have
> rates now either.
>
> ObRH: If anyone from DHH's Buttons-and-Bows section or from the
> CFCWO's shop turns up in your corner of the dockyard, ask about when
> they are going to update the CWO/CPO1 rank badge. Last time I looked
> it still did not have the Order of Canada augmentation. You'd think
> that by five years after its authorization they would have sorted it
> out.
> --
To be really picky, I believe the expression is more accurately "different
ships, different long splices".  Sorry, couldn't resist. :-)

I was also an "OR", albeit only for about 8 months in the Naval Reserve, but
obviously someone saw the need to change that term to NCM.  I personally
would even prefer the use of the term serviceperson to "member".  It makes
it sound like we're all a bunch of phalluses.  At least the navy has
retained the use of the seaman in ranks, despite gender.  Probably only
because no one could come up with an alternative that didn't sound
ludicrous.

Shame on you for pointing out the problem with the CPO1/CWO badge,
especially since it has only been nine years since the augmentation and not
five.  The Dress Committee is far to busy working out the details on new
hairstyles for demonstrating cultural sensitivity.  This is of primary
importance now that they've stamped out the heinous crime of loose mounted
medals.  ;-)  Anyway, I've never met one of these rare Dress Committee
"members", and I seriously doubt they would want to hear what I have to say.
After all, I still believe naval officers should wear their tunics more
often than annually.  And don't get me started on ball caps.

I hope you don't mind me cross posting this to can.community.military where
I'm sure I can generate a greater amount of abuse than in rec.heraldry.
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