Re: Fields of green (and blue, or gold and silver)

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2 total messages Started by Tim Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:18

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Author: Tim
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:18

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 JG> Fields of two metals or two tinctures:

 JG> I've been talking about this lately, and could do with some advice.
 JG> It's been my understanding that when the field is divided into equal
 JG> parts the parts are considered to be side-by-side rather than charged
 JG> on top of each other, so they can be colour-and-metal,
 JG> colour-and-colour, or metal-and-metal.  Fox-Davies says "... a field
 JG> can be and often is barry of two colours or two metals..." and goes on
 JG> to assert that there must, in modern heraldry, be equal numbers of
 JG> pieces (p 120 of the 1978 reprint of the 1909 edn).

 JG> Does this form a general guideline?  Does it apply to lozengy and chequey 
 JG> fields?  And if not, why not?

 This is correct with respect to real-world heraldry. In SCA heraldry,
 Laurel has consistently ruled (and it was enshrined in the new Rules for
 Submissions) that fields divided of more than three parts (with a special
 exception for quarterly and per-saltire) must have "good contrast", which
 the Rules artificially (and, I think, erroneously) define as being of
 opposite tincture classes, i.e. one must be a metal and one a color.

    Tim of Angle

 * Origin: Herald's Point * Steppes/Ansteorra * 214-699-0057 (1:124/4229)

Re: Fields of green (and blue, or gold and silver)

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Author: David Greenebaum
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:21

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Tim writes:
> [...] In SCA heraldry,
> [...] "good contrast", which
> the Rules artificially (and, I think, erroneously) define as being of
> opposite tincture classes, i.e. one must be a metal and one a color.

In low-light situations (as in, next time you're wandering from campfire
to campfire at an event), it's VERY hard to distinguish between sable
and gules, azure and vert, Or and argent, etc.  Or and purpure, vert
and argent are MUCH easier.  I think Laurel's ruling is sensible.

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