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Started by Andrea Marie Habura
Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:30
A favor....
Author: Andrea Marie Habura
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:30
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:30
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Folks, I've been doing some research into regional armory, and I wonder if any of you can help me out with the following blazon terms: Tranche failli and tailland and retranche: This is one of the funky German field divisions, and this phrase describes a per fess line. There are no charges on the field. "Tranche" means "per bend" in French blazon, and "tailland" is "per bend sinister". "Failli" has a group of Modern French meanings centering on "bankrupt, lacking"; "retranche" means "cut off" in Modern French. I have an intuition, however, that "retranche" here means "and again per bend", which would make this a sort of super-indented line leaning over in a bendwise direction. Entravailles: "entrave" means "shackles" in Modern French. Any ideas? Enchaussure: "Enchausser" is a French verb meaning "to straw up", which makes me think that this is either a sheaf of wheat or a haystack. However, the French words for these objects are not even remotely similar. The word may be related to the French blazonry term "chausse'". Retrait: I'm pretty sure this means "couped", but can't prove it. If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it. (I'm actually feeling prety proud of myself; I figured out "emache", "a plomb", and "mit einer lincken stufe"). Thanks... Andrea Habura
Re: A favor....
Author: Francois Velde
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:32
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:32
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In article <7w+3_bg@rpi.edu> habura@vccnw04.its.rpi.edu (Andrea Marie Habura) writes:
>Folks, I've been doing some research into regional armory, and I wonder if
>any of you can help me out with the following blazon terms:
>
>Tranche failli and tailland and retranche: This is one of the funky German
>field divisions, and this phrase describes a per fess line. There are no
>charges on the field. "Tranche" means "per bend" in French blazon, and
>"tailland" is "per bend sinister". "Failli" has a group of Modern French
>meanings centering on "bankrupt, lacking"; "retranche" means "cut off" in
>Modern French. I have an intuition, however, that "retranche" here means
>"and again per bend", which would make this a sort of super-indented line
>leaning over in a bendwise direction.
Failli is the past participle of "faillir", which means to fail.
In French heraldry, failli qualifies a chevron which is broken (and you
mnust specify which side). Your blazon, however, "tranche failli en
taillant et retranche", sounds exactly like one in Woodward, plate 55,
and matches another meaning of failli: " it is also said of these partition
lines which in some German coats are carried only a portion of their distance".
The meaning is then: start out from the upper-left corner with a tranche
(divided per bend), "fail" midway by switching to "taille" or per bend
sinister, and start again per bend ("retranche"). The result is a zig-zag,
or a piece-wise linear partition in 3 pieces, going south-west, south-east,
south-west.
>Entravailles: "entrave" means "shackles" in Modern French. Any ideas?
The root would be "travailler", to work, or to chisel. Menestrier (1761)
says: entravaille' is said of birds displayed who have a baton [a cotice
couped at the ends] or something else slipped in between their wings and
their feet." Woodward says it is synonymous with interlaced (e.g. azure,
three fess argent, a chevron or interlaced).
>Enchaussure: "Enchausser" is a French verb meaning "to straw up", which makes
>me think that this is either a sheaf of wheat or a haystack. However, the
>French words for these objects are not even remotely similar. The word may be
>related to the French blazonry term "chausse'".
This has to do with Continental partitions, namely chape' and chausse'
(the ' after the e indicates a diacritical mark, and that the word is
the past participle of a verb). Chape' is a partition consisting of two
lines, starting both from the same point in the middle of the top of
the shield, and going down sideways, one to the left and the other to the
right. It is an abstract representation of a hood, and figured on the
arms of the Carmes monks. If the middle is argent and the sides are
gules, it would be blazoned argent chape' gules. Chausse' (which means
"shoed") is the reverse: the two lines start from the point and move up
to each upper corner: it represents a shoe. It is sometimes called enchausse'.
An enchaussure would be one half of this, i.e. the left or the right triangle
of a enchausse figure, standing by itself. When the lines start from the
side of the shield, it is called embrasse' (embraced). When the lines
are convex rather than straight, it is a chausse'-ploye' (or chape'-ploye').
When the field is both chape' (hooded) and chausse' (shoed) it is called
ve^tu (clothed).
>Retrait: I'm pretty sure this means "couped", but can't prove it.
Woodward again: "it is said of an ordinary which only touches one edge
of the shield, and does not proceed very far towards the other." it is
used for fess (or bars), pales, bends. I suppose it is like couped on
one end.
Woodward's treatise has a French glossary, where all these terms can be
found, as well, sometimes, as "translations" into English blazons. (e.g.
the chausse and chape figures he describes using piles).
--
Francois Velde
RE: A favor....
Author: boyko
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:08
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:08
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I have a small question about your descriptions: how would "tranche
failli en taillant et retranche" differ from a fess or bar
dancettee?
I am having a bit of trouble picturing that french blazon,
even after your description. probably my fault.
Re: A favor....
Author: Francois Velde
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:14
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:14
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In article <11JAN93.20082368@skyfox> boyko@skyfox writes: >I have a small question about your descriptions: how would "tranche >failli en taillant et retranche" differ from a fess or bar >dancettee? You might think of that blazon as similar to "per bend dancetty, gules and argent". From what I understand, dancetty indicates that the partition line is indented, but with a small number of indentations, i.e. 3 or less. "tranche failli en tranchant et retranche" would be a dancetty partition line with only 1 indentation. > I am having a bit of trouble picturing that french blazon, >even after your description. probably my fault. OK. First, it is a partition, so it separates the field in two regions, the left one is gules, the right is argent. That partition starts in the upper-left corner, and ends in the lower-right corner. But, instead of going in a straight line (in the south-east direction), it starts off in that direction, then switches toward the lower *left* corner, then switches back toward the lower right corner. Or: it is a line in three pieces. ------------ |\ | | \ | | \ | | \ | | \ | | ---- | | \ | | \ | | \ | ------------ -- Francois Velde
Re: A favor....
Author: Leif Euren
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:01
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:01
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In article <1is3udINNd7l@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> velde2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Francois Velde) writes: > Chape' is a partition consisting of two >lines, starting both from the same point in the middle of the top of >the shield, and going down sideways, one to the left and the other to the >right. Excuse me, but I don't really grasp this partition. If it is what I think, than I've seen it blazoned "per chevron enhanced", i.e. a per-chevron partition with the apex at the top edge of the shield. Am I right or wrong? Please enlighten me! __ __ | \ | All opinions are my own, even if my employer claims otherwise! | \ | | | Leif Euren NobelTech Systems AB | \ | System Manager Rational S-175 88 JARFALLA |__ \__| tel: +46-8-58084072 Sweden
Re: A favor....
Author: Francois Velde
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:32
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:32
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In article <1993Jan12.120114.13929@nobeltech.se> leeu@nobeltech.se (Leif Euren) writes: >In article <1is3udINNd7l@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> velde2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Francois Velde) writes: >> Chape' is a partition consisting of two >>lines, starting both from the same point in the middle of the top of >>the shield, and going down sideways, one to the left and the other to the >>right. > >Excuse me, but I don't really grasp this partition. If it is what I >think, than I've seen it blazoned "per chevron enhanced", i.e. a >per-chevron partition with the apex at the top edge of the shield. Am >I right or wrong? Please enlighten me! It sounds like you are describing the same thing as I was. The terms I described (chape, chausse, vetu, etc) come from the vocabulary of French heraldry, and were also used (from what Andrea Habura says) in German blazons. That the English had another way of blazoning this partition isn't surprising (conversely, I don't recall any obvious equivalent to "per chevron" in French). I understand from Woodward that this partition was more common on the Continent, esp. in Germany, where geometric designs were favored. -- Francois Velde
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