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In article <1993Jan4.083710.26189@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
   andre.trudel@acadiau.ca (Andre Trudel) writes:
>I'm thinking of getting a vizsla for pheasant hunting.
>Anybody have any experience hunting with them?
>Would this be a wise choice for a pheasant dog?
>Anybody know where I could purchase one on the American
>or Canadian east coast?
>
>Any advice on the breed would be greatly appreciated.`
>I've never hunted with one. I just love the looks of them.
 
 
My opinion is very biased, but the breed of choice is:
   Labrador Retriever
 
I'm pretty sure that Richard Wolters (the guy that wrote _Water Dog_,
_Gun Dog_, _Game Dog_, and _Family Dog_ lives in that area.
 
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Chris Barnes            |   President - Bryan/College Station
cbarnes@tamvm1.tamu.edu |         Retriever Club.
(409) 846-3273 (home)   |   "Dedicated to the betterment of
(409) 845-4437 (work)   |               the retrieving breeds"

In article <1993Jan4.083710.26189@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, andre.trudel@acadiau.ca (Andre Trudel) writes:
> 
> I'm thinking of getting a vizsla for pheasant hunting.
> Anybody have any experience hunting with them?
> Would this be a wise choice for a pheasant dog?
> Anybody know where I could purchase one on the American
> or Canadian east coast?
> 
> Any advice on the breed would be greatly appreciated.`
> I've never hunted with one. I just love the looks of them.

I have had two vizslas and hunt with one currently owned by my
neighbor.  You are right, they are beautiful animals and pretty decent
hunters.  In my experience I have found them to be kind of high strung
in the field.  It has taken all three four or five years to calm down
into mature hunters.  They have tremendous noses, but aren't exception
retrievers.  All three, to varying degrees, have pointed, but none
ever retrieved a pheasant.  They would stand on or over the bird but
it must have been too big to pick up.  With quail, on the other hand,
they were fantastic pointers and retrievers.  Also, all three are
indoor/outdoor pets and are good with children.  You have my vote for
a purchase.

In article <1993Jan5.102402.737@doug.cae.wisc.edu> CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
>From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
>Subject: Re: Vizsla
>Date: 5 Jan 93 16:24:01 GMT
>In article <1993Jan4.083710.26189@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
>   andre.trudel@acadiau.ca (Andre Trudel) writes:
>>I'm thinking of getting a vizsla for pheasant hunting.
>>Anybody have any experience hunting with them?
>>Would this be a wise choice for a pheasant dog?
>>Anybody know where I could purchase one on the American
>>or Canadian east coast?
>>
>>Any advice on the breed would be greatly appreciated.`
>>I've never hunted with one. I just love the looks of them.
> 
> 
>My opinion is very biased, but the breed of choice is:
>   Labrador Retriever

Chris, 

I trust that you intended to throw down the gauntlet.

It is obvious that your opinion is very biased, as you state.
Everyone knows that Labs are all wet.  A German Shorthair Pointer is
clearly superior.  While Labs are very nice pets, I have never seen
one that was much of a pointer.  Anyone who has ever had the pleasure
of hunting with a GSP knows that in all but the worst climates they
will retrieve well on both land and in water, and find and point birds
with style.

The only complaints that I have with mine is that he insist on reading
my magazines first and always beats me to the TV remote.  I am really
tired of those nature shows. Oh, and he drives too fast.

DGA



> 
>I'm pretty sure that Richard Wolters (the guy that wrote _Water Dog_,
>_Gun Dog_, _Game Dog_, and _Family Dog_ lives in that area.
> 
>      -----------------------------------------------------
>Chris Barnes            |   President - Bryan/College Station
>cbarnes@tamvm1.tamu.edu |         Retriever Club.
>(409) 846-3273 (home)   |   "Dedicated to the betterment of
>(409) 845-4437 (work)   |               the retrieving breeds"

In article <1993Jan8.114058.7348@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
   DENNIS_@ncsu.edu (DGA) writes:
 
>>My opinion is very biased, but the breed of choice is:
>>   Labrador Retriever
>
>Chris,
>
>I trust that you intended to throw down the gauntlet.
 
Well.....it's not unexpected.
 
 
>It is obvious that your opinion is very biased, as you state.
>Everyone knows that Labs are all wet.  A German Shorthair Pointer is
>clearly superior.  While Labs are very nice pets, I have never seen
>one that was much of a pointer.
 
Actaully, there are quite a few Labs around that are remote decendants of
an experiment that took place back in the '30s (i believe).  It seems
that some Lab people wanted to improve the nose abilities of their
breed, so they bred some of their top-o-the-line Labs with some type
of breed of pointer (and lied on their registration to the AKC as
to the parantage - but of course this would *never* happen today ;-) ).
They kept very tight control over the pups, and only bred those
pups that still looked like a Lab (no word on what they did with
the others).  As a result, today you can find some Labs that will
on occastion point at a bird while in the field (mine has done this
exactly twice).
 
 
>Anyone who has ever had the pleasure
>of hunting with a GSP knows that in all but the worst climates they
>will retrieve well on both land and in water, and find and point birds
>with style.
 
Sure, but you had better be on an ATV in order to keep up with them!
(written tongue-in-cheek to get a "rise" outta you and Charlie.)   ;-)
 
 
>The only complaints that I have with mine is that he insist on reading
>my magazines first and always beats me to the TV remote.  I am really
>tired of those nature shows. Oh, and he drives too fast.
 
What I hate is that Dixie gets all the attention and praise for bringing
home something for dinner when we get home from hunting.  Just because
she's a better shot than I am, doesn't mean that she did *ALL* the
work - after all, I did have to pour my own coffee!
 
      -----------------------------------------------------
Chris Barnes            |   President - Bryan/College Station
cbarnes@tamvm1.tamu.edu |         Retriever Club.
(409) 846-3273 (home)   |   "Dedicated to the betterment of
(409) 845-4437 (work)   |               the retrieving breeds"

DENNIS_@ncsu.edu (DGA) writes:

>In article <1993Jan5.102402.737@doug.cae.wisc.edu> CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:

>>My opinion is very biased, but the breed of choice is:
>>   Labrador Retriever

>It is obvious that your opinion is very biased, as you state.
>Everyone knows that Labs are all wet.  A German Shorthair Pointer is
>clearly superior.  While Labs are very nice pets, I have never seen
>one that was much of a pointer.  Anyone who has ever had the pleasure
>of hunting with a GSP knows that in all but the worst climates they
>will retrieve well on both land and in water, and find and point birds
>with style.

Well, I really have no argument with *anything* you've said about the
German Wirehaired Pointer, having had considerable experience with
them.  But I would like to add that if you want to get rid of that "in
all but the worst climates" problem, buy yourself a German Drahthaar -
I've had mine retrieving ducks when she had to break ice to get out of
the water, and she loved it.  Even better, just to prove she isn't
just a Lab with a wiry coat, she pointed pheasants later in the day,
and finished it out by tracking down a wounded deer that a buddy had
lost.

Not a bad day for just one 15 month old puppy, eh?


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