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Re: Passing Patterns: Both Hand Passing: 7 clubs PPS

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From: Martin Frost
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:46
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In article <memo.846561@cix.compulink.co.uk> Dave Corney <tarim@cix.compulink.co.uk> writes:

  From: Dave Corney <tarim@cix.compulink.co.uk>
  Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 04:37 GMT

   Martin Frost <me@Sunburn.stanford.edu> replies 2 Brendan Brolly
  <PHY5JBB@phys-irc.novell.leeds.ac.uk> as follows:

  > If you read the Spring 1991 Juggler's World, you will find the seven-club
  > 3-count, which is almost exactly the same.  All we do is turn one self
  > of each person into a pass (hence PSS (3-count) becomes PPS).

  >>  Have u actually juggled this pattern?  Cos as far as Tarim can
  >>  make out, although it is a PPS pattern, it has 8 clubs in it
  >>  rather than 7.  The 1st person throws 3 clubs from their right
  >>  hand b4 they actually catch 1 there.

Yup, you're right, it's for 8 clubs.  Ed Carstens and I tried it a few days
ago in Las Vegas at the IJA Winter Festival and discovered that it didn't
work with 7 clubs because we ended up with a hole (room for the 8th club!).

However, annoyed as I was at having posted that without checking it out, I
spent some time in Vegas working out several other (all!?) possible 7 club
PPS patterns -- on paper.  Turned out that one of the ones I came up with was
Ed's pattern, which involves throwing doubles as well as triples.
Unfortunately, the juggling room in Vegas was only almost-triple height --
that is, triples would often hit the ceiling (if not the chandeliers).

But another 7 club PPS pattern I discovered needs only doubles and it proved
to be quite achievable.  My apologies for making you discover the 8 club PPS
pattern!  (Does it really work?  By the way, ask me about the 8 club 3-count
some time.)

Here is my 7-club PPS, version F (version E is Ed's, posted earlier):

  2p7c PPS F:
  The two jugglers are in sync, starting their R hands at the same time.

  Juggler #1, with 4 clubs, throws:  double, double, self
  Juggler #2, with 3 clubs, throws:  self,   single, double
  Then repeat.  

  If juggler #2 starts with 2 clubs in the right hand, all doubles (from both
  jugglers) are diagonals (R to R and L to L) and the single is a straight
  pass (alternating between R to L and L to R).

  (If you make the doubles straight and the singles diagonal, collisions are
  much more likely, I think.)

I'm writing this without my notes.  Sure hope I got it right this time.
--
Martin Frost		Computer Science Department, Computer Facilities
Systems Programmer	Stanford University, Stanford, CA  94305-2140
me@CS.Stanford.EDU	(or mfrost@stanford.bitnet)
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Subject: Re: Passing Patterns: Both Hand Passing: 7 clubs PPS
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