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Article #989Re: Mills' Mess
From: Kim Holburn
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:35
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:35
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In article <1993Jan9.041350.10594@craycos.com> Robert Herndon, rh@craycos.com writes: >Just before I left on Christmas vacation, someone posted a set of >directions for learning Mills' Mess that looked remarkably doable >to me. If anyone saved that, would you please send me a copy? > Hi folks, I got 2 letters on exercises for mill's mess. I thought I'd (re)post them as someone else is interested. I should anyway for netiquette. I went away on holidays just after I posted my request, so I didn't see any responses that weren't posted to me (sorry about that). Thanks for responding anyway. >Organization: Hitachi Computer Products, OSSD division >Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 14:59:07 EST >From: Alan Greenspan <alan@hicomb.hi.com> > >The Mills mess is one of those tricks where all of a sudden you just >*get it*, and then like riding a bicycle, you wont forget it. It's a >very hard trick to teach, but there are some exercises that I think are >vital. > > 1) Learn to juggle with your hands crossed. You must juggle > in a reverse cascade with your hands crossed. Learn it with > one particular hand always crossed over the top. As a right > handed person, I find having the left hand crossed over the > top of the right hand to be easier. > > 2) Learn the cross handed pattern but with the other hand > on top. > > 3) Starting with a normal reverse cascade, switch to a cross-handed > reverse cascade. This is a difficult move, but somewhat intuitive. > You must carry 2 successive catches into the proper positions for > the cross-handed cascade. Then you will feel the natural slots > emerging where successive throws need to be made. > > 4) Transition from the cross-handed reverse back to the regular > reverse cascade. Same issues as 3. > > 5) Do the same excercises in 3 and 4 but in and out of cross-handed > patterns with the other hand on top. > >The Mills mess becomes a matter of switching back and forth between left >over right and right over left cross-handed juggling just as fast as possible. >I found that I got it to click after cross-handed juggling became routine >and I was easily able to transit back and forth between cross-handed reverse >cascades with either hand on top. Good luck. > >- Alan > >From: watson@s1.elec.uq.oz.au (Brett Watson) >To: kim@csc.canberra.edu.au (Kim Holburn) >Subject: Re: How to do Mills Mess > >Hi Kim, > >I saw your request about Mills Mess, and thought I'd tell you >all I know. I also tried to learn it, before I saw anybody do it, >and found it impossible. The version I do (in a messy sort of way) >involves a pair of balls, which are thrown backwards and forwards >between the hands, while the third ball is carried underneath, and >thrown vertically first on one side, then carried to the other side >and thrown vertically there. > >If you can't do the trick though, that description is about as clear >as mud. > >To do Mills Mess you should be able to do under the wrist throws >quite easily. > >A good exercise for learning Mills Mess is to take two balls, and >cross your hands. Suppose the hand on top is your right hand. >Your right hand should throw its ball first, across the body, towards >the position of your left hand. Then the other hand (left) carries >the ball it holds across, until the hands are no longer crossed. >It throws the second ball vertically when your arm is pointing straight >out from your body. You then cross your hands again, but this time the >left hand is on top. You catch the two balls and then perform >the step described above again - i.e. throw with your topmost (left) >hand across the body, and carry the other ball until you uncross >your hands, and then throw the ball vertically. After you cross >your hands again and catch the balls you should be in the position >you started in. > >When I first tried this I felt incredibly uncoordinated because >I couldn't get myself to cross my hands when I wanted to, and frequently >ended up with the wrong hand on top. After a little while, though, >it won't seem so hard. > >If you master this trick, you are well on the way to doing Mills >Mess. If you have trouble understanding my description, I'll have >another go using ascii pictures. The xjug program contains >several animations of Mills Mess, and different variations. If you >have access to an xterminal and can compile it, the one I am refering >to is mills.jug - the "British" version of Mills Mess. The trick >I have described is the pattern performed by the red and blue balls. > >How do you go from this two ball pattern to three balls? I find it >difficult to do from a "standing" start. The way I learned was to >start juggling a cascade, and then throw one of the balls vertically >(using my left hand - slightly to the left of the left hands "home" >position). I make the usual throw from my right hand for a cascade, >and then cross my hands, with my right hand underneath to catch the >ball that my left hand threw vertically. Meanwhile the left hand >must make its usual cascade style pass. The right hand must then >uncross, and throw the ball vertically when the hands are uncrossed. >Hopefully you can see how things are going. I think the help file >on Moocow describes this better than me. > >To answer your other questions: > >How difficult is it? Its not really too hard, though I must admit >that I don't do it very tidily. It looks best if you keep the throws >for the pair of balls in the centre quite low. Its the most complicated >3 ball trick that I know, but then I haven't learned Burkes Barrage, >or whatsisnames nighmare or any of the other legendry three ball killers. >Stick with it for a week or two, and I'm sure you will have it. > >The reason the patterns from Jugglepro and the help file look different >is because there are a large number of variations of Mills Mess. Most >tricks can be adapted so that you can do a Mills Mess variation of them >too, it just makes my head spin thinking about some of them! If you >have managed to compile xjug, there are animations of several of the >variations in that package. > >Anyway, best of luck with learning the trick. If you want to >know more, or want clearer explanations, feel free to ask. > > >Brett. > > +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | Kim Holburn | Internet : kim@csc.canberra.edu.au | | Computer Services Centre | | | University of Canberra | Phone : (06)201 2203, (06)201 2401 | | PO Box 1 Belconnen | | | ACT Australia | Fax : (06)201 5074 | +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | born again and again and again and again and again buddhist | | well... in a previous life anyway :-) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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