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Article #1884Re: $$$
From: stand
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 22:01
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 22:01
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The least expensive RC model airplane option I have seen is one based on an article in RCM based on the "Combat Grimlin". This airplane is made out of plastic down spout and a foam wing. The wing was reinforced using strapping filiment tape. The model is a flying wing type, like a Polestar or Simitar. I have built a couple and they fly exceptionally well and are very forgiving. They go where you point them and groove. We have powered them with everything from a 15 to 25SF. Mine have 20s in them. One of fliers at our field who is been in training mode for too long was given the controls and he flew it for several flights with no problem. Even though he can barely fly his trainer 40. Based on this, myself and a couple of others started looking at how cheap we could go with these. Would you believe $25 for a kit that includes every thing except the tank, hinges and linkages! Of course you need a radio and engine too. It goes together in about an evening, not counting drying time. Although my versions all use the filament tape wing, the kits use a spar, as the savings were not that great. And we pinch pennys, ie, use phillips head screws instead of hex to keep the cost down. Yes, all screws are included. Going as step further Nick, the chief designer of our project, built a prototype trainer. It is 3 channel; rudder, elevator and throttle. I uses no glue, except for joining the wings and the verticle and horizontal stab. The rudder and elevator are one piece and bolt in the down spout. It too flys outstanding. It is very soft on the initial application of control, but if you throw in a lot it cranks around very responsively. Just right for a novice. It's almost indistructable as the wing is rubber banded. The trainer is of conventional design, uses a longer section of down spout. Uses a 15 and flys forever on 4 oz, tank. To further this effort we are experimenting with different covering materials. My first one, Bird of Prey (because we use it to chase birds), was covered with MonoKote; very expensive, took better part of a roll. Next one is done with high gloss latex enamel, then clear polyurethane. Much better. Another one of our experimenters didn't bother with the clear, no problem, seems to be fuel proof. There is yet another that is covered with a checkerboard shelf like material found at Wallmart. EconoKote (sp?) is also used and is better than MonoKote directly over foam as it takes less heat. If you really want to go cheap, use a felt tip pin and forget it; just wipe it down after you fly. You tend to get very brave with these inexpensive models and do radical things very low to the ground. So low that I managed to put my first one into the runway at our field at full throttle in an almost verticle postion (dumb thumb). The fuselage didn't survive and the wing bent a little. So I ripped off the MonoKote, added more tape to the wing, sprayed a little latex (yes, you can thin it with water), cut a new fuselage (10 minutes) and it's ready to go again. Anyway in Georgetown, Texas a hobby shop is selling these things at cost. They are even planning a "Bird of Prey" siminar to show how to slap these things together in an evening. The prototype trainer was sold at the field the other day, As soon as we get tired of cranking out Birds of Prey kits we'll start looking at kiting the trainer. The cost should be within pennys of the more lively Bird of Prey flying wing. So the jist of this little note is that I could probably put together an airplane of the trainer catagory for $25 for the kit, say $10 for hinges, tank and linkages, at the most $8 for Coverite or similar low temp covering. $50 for an engine and a 4 channel radio, at $115. Some white glue (borrow it). Epoxy on the wing center is optional, but let's say $7 from Tower with enough left over to do about 20 more planes. Total about $225. And you have something that flys great. Not like those 049 Cox things that only an advanced flier can fly, have junk for servos and radio (2 channel) and cost a bunch. I have one of these things, a Cessna with an 049 that I bought at a garage sale. It's a gas to fly but I can't imagine anyone learning to fly with it. With the down spout type model you have a radio and an engine that can used for other models. I know the original sender of the note wanted direct email answer, but I personally don't like when youall do that, because I like to see the answers to questions asked on this forum myself. Stan stand@austin.ibm.com
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