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Article #1959Re: C/L Combat Beginner seeks help!
From: Iskandar Taib
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:54
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:54
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In article <1993Jan22.230034.1@wombat.newcastle.edu.au> asrgf@wombat.newcastle.edu.au writes: > After a gap of about twenty years I would like to get involved in > control line >open combat again. My questions are these: Hello there! I don't know much about Australian Open Combat, but what I've heard leads me to believe its similar to AMA "Fast" Combat in the United States, except that .40 motors are allowed. I don't know if the rules are more FAI like (or pre-'78 SMAE like) or whether, like AMA Combat, the "kill" wins the match. > *Engines Hmmm well, I've seen pictures of someone who flew a Cartier Gotcha 500 with an OS Max .40 FSR. So I imagine any one of the numerous Schnuerle .40s would work well. Here in the States most people fly using the Fox .36 Mark VI Combat Special. There aren't many .36 sized motors out there, but a few people fly with Nelson's new .36, and a variety of other custom- built motors like the Hoffelt .36. You will have a much wider choice. Used R/C motors must abound - the R/C NVAs can be salvaged to be used as remote needles. Then theres me. I fly using cheap Taiwan-made .28s on somewhat smaller airplanes. What I lose in speed I make up in turning abi- lity. You might try something similar. If you do want to try this let me know - the plans for my Caudimordax design have been pub- lished and are available through Model Aviation ie. AMA. The better deals out there are the Taiwanese .40s - they're cheap and they can be made to run very fast, if my experience with the smaller .28s is any indication. They aren't all built the same though. The best .28s I've found are the Leo (from Indy R/C). The Brat was about as fast but tended to blow rods. The Royal .28 was pretty slow. I retime the cranks on all my motors but do not touch the sleeve for the most part. You will have a choice between heavy and light .40s - you will no- tice that some weigh around 9-10 ounces (eg. Fox, OS .40 FP) and others 11-13 oz. Both can be made to run very fast with a little extra work. > What are the current "hot" motors and where do I get them. If you really want to go fast, money no object, Nelson makes a Quickee 500 motor. (Actually I hate to think of what this motor might do to a regular Combat airframe!). Fuel? Most people in the States like lots of nitro. I usually use 25%, some go as high as 40-50%. The Nelsons supposedly put out lots of power using 10-15% nitro, however. I assume you will be using a lot less nitro, which is good - the motors are bigger. Props? The APC 8.5x6 (or whatever it is) seems to be the "hot" one right now - people used to use wood props almost exclusively in Fast since things like Master Airscrews come apart at Fast Combat RPMs. The Australian Taipan props are quite good, though. Can't get them cheap anymore though... Lines? We get it in bulk. Bob Bearden sells it in 1000 foot spools, I have been selling some wire also (I have one 5000 foot spool left). Tanks? We use amber latex surgical tubing as is often used for hi- starts. Some addresses: Dox Generix Kits (kits - very good value) See MACA newsletter address below (812)665-3723 Lou Scavone (kits, parts) 41312 Memphis Drive, Sterling Heights, MI 48313 (313)739-3058 Bear Enterprises (kits, wire, supplies of all sorts) RR#2, Box 70, Beecher, IL 60401 (408)946-6130 The Core House/Phil Cartier (kits) 760 Waltonville Rd., Hummelstown, PA 17036 (717)566-3810 Bob Oge (engine rework) 34W. 883 S. James St. Charles, IL 60174 (312)888-2289 (Bob can rechrome that worn out piston/liner set from your Hanno Special just as easily as he'll do it on a Combat motor). Nelson Engines 121 Pebble Creek Lane, Zelienople, PA 16063 (412)538-5282 > *Models > What are the current "hot" medels and whwere do I get plans etc? In the states the current "hot" model has to be Steve Hill's Arrow- plane. I'll try to find an address - he sells the plans. It uses a long carbon arrowshaft for a boom. All the current designs use a styrofoam wing of about 500 square inches, with about 48 inch span. A couple people fly using Russian style flying wings. Kits are avai- lable from a variety of sources - some of the nicest are Lou Scavone's > *News > Are there newsletters that cover the topic, and how do I subscribe? Several places for news. Model Aviation ran a Combat column (Charlie Johnson just "retired" so they are looking for another columnist). Phil Cartier and Rich "von" Lopez tag-team a very good informative column in Flying Models magazine. There are two combat-specific newsletters out there that you might want to subscribe to: MACA Newsletter PO Box 111 Jasonville, IN 47438 USA (Dues: $15 a year, don't know how much for overseas). New England Combat News (I'll post address later) You might also want to write for this: "The List" c/o John Thompson 1145 Birch Ave Cottage Grove, OR 97424 USA (A bunch of mailing lists: fliers, hobby shops, C/L product suppliers, a listing of the national C/L press. Mostly in the Northwestern United States - for the benefit of contest organizers in said region). I guess the best advice is actually to go to a couple meets and see what everyone else is flying. Thats how I got my start (won my first match ever against Bob Bearden - and I was flying a .15! I guess one gets lucky..) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Iskandar Taib | The only thing worse than Peach ala Internet: NTAIB@SILVER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU | Frog is Frog ala Peach Bitnet: NTAIB@IUBACS !
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Newsgroups: rec.models.rc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!silver.ucs.indiana.edu!ntaib From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) Subject: Re: C/L Combat Beginner seeks help! Message-ID: <C1CJ67.EJI@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: silver.ucs.indiana.edu Organization: Indiana University References: <1993Jan22.230034.1@wombat.newcastle.edu.au> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:54:07 GMT Lines: 151