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Article #5600Re: Cowardice, Authenticity and Flames
From: david director friedman
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:24
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:24
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Dennis objects that Greg is mixing up Dennis's categories of "Authenticity Maven" and "Authenticity Fanatic." Dennis, apparently defining (or perhaps only describing?) authenticity fanatics: "Further, in the original post, I said that poster I was following-up to had postulated the existence of people who are emotionally distressed by seeing people from various times and places mixed together at an SCA event, these being the fanatics I mentioned." This seems an odd definition of "fanatic"--I would not, for example, describe someone who was emotionally distressed at hearing an out-of-tune instrument in a musical performance as a "musical fanatic," fanatic being generally a pejorative term, but if that is what Dennis means by "Authenticity Fanatic," fine. Later he writes: "The question is in what ways is a person who would, for example, make an effort to cause a person in inauthentic garb (that was of course still OK by Corpora) feel uncomfortable (or try to get them excluded from the SCA), similar to a person who would make an effort to make a minority feel uncomfortable (or try to get them excluded from the SCA)?" ... "Does this mean being a fanatic is as "morally reprehensable" as being a racist ? ..." It sounds as though Dennis is now using "authenticity fanatic" to mean someone who "would, for example, make an effort to cause a person in inauthentic garb (that was of course still OK by Corpora) feel uncomfortable (or try to get them excluded from the SCA)." That does not seem to follow from his original definition, nor to have any direct connection with Terry's post to which he was responding. Terry did not say anything about making inauthentic people feel uncomfortable or excluding them from the SCA. Nor did she suggest that people who are emotionally distressed by inauthenticity want to make inauthentic people feel uncomfortable or try to exclude them from the SCA. The only discomfort she discussed, so far as I can remember, was discomfort felt by what Dennis is calling authenticity fanatics--how does one get from that to discomfort inflicted by those people on others? If Dennis is talking about people who are made uncomfortable by inauthentic things and justifying an analogy to racists, he seems to have left out a middle step--an argument showing that people who are made uncomfortable by inauthenticity behave in the discourteous way he describes. David/Cariadoc
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!olivea!pagesat!spssig.spss.com!uchinews!quads!ddfr From: ddfr@quads.uchicago.edu (david director friedman) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Cowardice, Authenticity and Flames Message-ID: <1993Jan21.042426.3535@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: 21 Jan 93 04:24:26 GMT References: <1993Jan19.175611.22684@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <1993Jan19.214815.28455@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <DOCONNOR.93Jan20002410@potato.sedona.intel.com> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Reply-To: ddfr@midway.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 56