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Re: antipathy to fencing

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From: steve hick
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:57
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In article <1993Jan8.231044.7601@progress.com>, schuldy@progress.COM (Mark 
Schuldenfrei) writes:

> In many ways, SCA fence as I've experienced it, is closer to a 
> period model than SCA fighting.  This may be that, being so late 
> period, we do have many good manuscripts and illustrations that 
> we can imitate.  It certainly appears that literate means were not used 
> to teach swordplay in period, or that none of the European 
> written works survive. 


False, false, false.  There exists almost 100 manuals of fencing prior to 
1500 in manuscript-THAT WE KNOW OF, with more being discovered all the time.  
There are some 60 or so of GERMAN style alone.  There are 100 or so manuals 
of Italian fening PRINTED between 1500 and 1600.  

There are only 2 prior to 1400, but this may be a problem of conservation and 
NOT proof of their non-existence.  These are the Tower Fechtbuch, formerly in 
the royal collection in Dresden, dated ca 1300, which covers buckler -
fencing, and Liechtenaurs (actaully Danko's) manual of 1389 in the German 
National Museum in Nurnberg.

> 
> You know more about fighting, and period weapon's use than I, 
å
be true that medieval 
> swordwork has no modern sport analogue.  B
ut as practiced, it's 
> hardly a "more period" expression of sport than 
SCA Rapier comb
a
t, in 
> my opinion. 

SCA Rapier fencing is FINE, and I support it.  But i
t is not very close at all to what was done in period.  I have seen very 
few 4 1/2 foot rapiers weighing 3 lbs with tennis b
a
Bibliographies on request.

Strykar
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