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Greetings and 'Mea maxima culpa'. I did indeed transpose the founding of
the Garter (1344) and the Fleece (1430) and while there is no doubt that
the one copied the other and the first was founded on the TRADITION of the
round table there is no FACTUAL EVEDENCE that that such an organisation
EVER existed. Good heavens schollars (and others) are still arguing about
the location of Camelot and even if such a place actualy existed. On that
basis one might as well base the idea on the tradidions of Atlantis!
Seriously I didnt want to get off track here merely to point out that how
Knighthood came about,and what constitutes an Order is not a matter of
speculation, it is a KNOWN FACT, thoroughly researchable. That certain
founders of Orders (including King Edward) said that they baised their
organisation on some long gone institution is rater like Egyptian Pharoes'
claiming decent from the Sun God Ra, it gives a new organisation an
instant ancestry.
Some of the other "Orders" mentioned are in fact 'Knightly Associations'
which could probably be likened to a modern pro Football team. One did not
become a knight by joining but one had to BE a knight before being ALLOWED
to join, many of these associationd did not outlive their founders.
I realy did not intend to get so deeply into this and I am truely just
trying to be helpfull if I may refer any inerested parties to Peter Bander
van Duren's book ORDERS OF KNIGHTHOOD AND OF MERIT I am shure you will be
facinated. It chronicals not only the origins of Knighthood but its
continuing role in the world which is considerable.
Please beleve me when I say that I am not trying to attack or belittle any
individual or society its 'just the facts Mam'.
Kind regards. Tim Pickles