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In article <MfNdQcq00WB9A2GO93@andrew.cmu.edu> David Schroeder <ds4p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>   o Modern fantasy (Tolkien, Heinlein, Anderson, de Camp, Twain<!>)
>   o Science Fiction Fandom
>   o American political liberalism (founded in Berkeley!)
>   o Movies (Robin Hood)
>   o Some period authors/works -- Shakespeare, Chaucer, Mallory, Beowulf
>
>What are some others I've missed in this quick note?
>

Libertarianism - Just ask Tadgh or Cariadoc about where Cariadoc was
when he was taken away to be crowned 1st King of the Midrealm.

Dungeons and Dragons

Comic Books

>What might be on the list of "Fifty books that shaped the SCA?"
>(and how might you prioritize their influence?)
>
>   1) Tolkien's     "Lord of the Rings"
>   2) Scott's       "Ivanhoe"
>   3) White's       "The Once and Future King"
>   4) ...            ....
>
5) Gygax and Arneson's  "Dungeons and Dragons, (white box edition)"
6) Shakespeare		"Henry V" (book and Olivier version movie)  
7) Shakespeare		"Midsummer's Night Dream"
8) Rackham?		"Tales of King Arthur's Knights"
9) Rackham?		"Tales of Robin Hood"
10) Sayers (trans.)	"The Song of Roland"

Only I'd put D&D 1st on the list.

Lothar \|/
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>I'll look forward to continued discussion, but for now must go comfort
>a crying five-month-old who _really_ wants to go to sleep but just
>doesn't know it yet.
>
>My best to you all -- Bertram
>
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Unto Bertram does Pagan send Greetings!

  > I wonder if we could enumerate the various sources of modern SCA attitudes.
  > Here are just a few, from my understanding of our organizational history:
    [list deleted]
  > What are some others I've missed in this quick note?

For the Romantic aspect (personal view):

  * Victorian Pre-Raphaelite painters (esp. Burne-Jones and D.G. Rosetti) 
    'a beautiful romantic dream of something that never was, never will be'
  * Fairy tales, in particular the children's versions of the Round Table 
    stories.

For history:

  * Real Renaissance artists (Titian's lushness and Artemesia Gentileschi's 
    violence.) 
  * Eleanor of Acquitaine, Henry VIII, and various other larger-than-life 
    stars of TV movies and Jean Plaidy novels.
  * The music.  (Well, for me.)

For practical attitudes (a *very* personal view):

  * lots of dressing up and play-acting as a kid.  Encouragement to do 
    bucket chemistry on the back lawn or in the kitchen, and tolerance of 
    most of the diverse and *wonderful* results.  ]^)  A mother who was a 
    fanatic hoarder, do-it-yourselfer, and ex-teacher, and an aunt whose 
    business makes wedding and evening dresses.  Too many libraries (phooey!  
    As if there's such a thing!), too many books in general, too much music, 
    and a fair amount of art.  Deep feelings of resentment about the 
    Industrial Revolution.  ]-)  ]-)  ]-)

That's my excuse:  what's yours?  ]-)

Pagan le Chaunster
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